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		<title>By: Scott Speight</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/10/12/why-the-hunting-ban-must-stay-in-place/#comment-13808</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Speight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-13806&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@Scott Speight&lt;/a&gt; - That was before I read the bottom section of the comments and see that they have said pretty much what I did. Apologies! :S</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-13806' rel="nofollow">@Scott Speight</a> &#8211; That was before I read the bottom section of the comments and see that they have said pretty much what I did. Apologies! :S</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Speight</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/10/12/why-the-hunting-ban-must-stay-in-place/#comment-13806</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Speight</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 15:29:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LFAT, 

The argument which you and some other commentators have written are slightly flawed in my opinion. It is not just about the fox-hunting.

I would want to see the next government go through ALL the parlimentary acts that have been forced upon me and to repeal ALL the ones that infringe my liberty unless there is a health issue (such as the HSE Act etc) involved in it. I wish to see multiple acts repealed (including the bail of hay in a taxi!) and they could do it just prior to the quango bonfire!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LFAT, </p>
<p>The argument which you and some other commentators have written are slightly flawed in my opinion. It is not just about the fox-hunting.</p>
<p>I would want to see the next government go through ALL the parlimentary acts that have been forced upon me and to repeal ALL the ones that infringe my liberty unless there is a health issue (such as the HSE Act etc) involved in it. I wish to see multiple acts repealed (including the bail of hay in a taxi!) and they could do it just prior to the quango bonfire!</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/10/12/why-the-hunting-ban-must-stay-in-place/#comment-13799</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 12:12:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All tory supporters should say, &quot;Yes we will vote for you, on condition that when you are in power, you bring back hunting with dogs, and bring back pistol shooting, there are more people wanting these things to happen than would vote for them to remain on the book&quot;
I have not voted since 1992, as I was / still am a pistol shooter, If the conservatives want votes they must realise who votes for them!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All tory supporters should say, &#8220;Yes we will vote for you, on condition that when you are in power, you bring back hunting with dogs, and bring back pistol shooting, there are more people wanting these things to happen than would vote for them to remain on the book&#8221;<br />
I have not voted since 1992, as I was / still am a pistol shooter, If the conservatives want votes they must realise who votes for them!</p>
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		<title>By: Oscar Peter</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/10/12/why-the-hunting-ban-must-stay-in-place/#comment-13793</link>
		<dc:creator>Oscar Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:25:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you are an anti be an anti - say you don&#039;t like hunting, support the HA and go and join an illiberal party like Labour. If you are a tory (some hope) don&#039;t try and hide your prejudice with  piss poor arguments like this. Facts:

1) Governments can do more than one thing at once.
2) Repealing the HA would be a no cost, arguably cost saving exercise. You can argue that policemen are best deployed trying to work out whether hunting is legal or not. I&#039;m not going to.
3) Repealing the HA need take only one day in the Commons. The HA was driven through in one day in Sept 2004.
4) Hunting has always been a free vote issue and so will repeal. It will be supported by MPs of every party.

There will be no serious opposition to repeal because only the idiotic and insane (i.e. Kevin Maguire) think it is a law worth keeping. Every paper bar the Mirror thought that passing it was wrong, and mosthave continued to codemn it since. Who is going to criticise the Conservatives for repealing the HA? Simon Jenkins, Polly Toynbee, the Indy, the Observer, the Times? None of them because they all opposed it in the first place.

This is now a matter if trust and trust is a far more potent political force than foxes.

“We have a very clear position on this, there will be a free vote, and if there is a vote to repeal the hunting ban there will be a government Bill in government time.&quot; David Cameron 19th February 2008

Oscar</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you are an anti be an anti &#8211; say you don&#8217;t like hunting, support the HA and go and join an illiberal party like Labour. If you are a tory (some hope) don&#8217;t try and hide your prejudice with  piss poor arguments like this. Facts:</p>
<p>1) Governments can do more than one thing at once.<br />
2) Repealing the HA would be a no cost, arguably cost saving exercise. You can argue that policemen are best deployed trying to work out whether hunting is legal or not. I&#8217;m not going to.<br />
3) Repealing the HA need take only one day in the Commons. The HA was driven through in one day in Sept 2004.<br />
4) Hunting has always been a free vote issue and so will repeal. It will be supported by MPs of every party.</p>
<p>There will be no serious opposition to repeal because only the idiotic and insane (i.e. Kevin Maguire) think it is a law worth keeping. Every paper bar the Mirror thought that passing it was wrong, and mosthave continued to codemn it since. Who is going to criticise the Conservatives for repealing the HA? Simon Jenkins, Polly Toynbee, the Indy, the Observer, the Times? None of them because they all opposed it in the first place.</p>
<p>This is now a matter if trust and trust is a far more potent political force than foxes.</p>
<p>“We have a very clear position on this, there will be a free vote, and if there is a vote to repeal the hunting ban there will be a government Bill in government time.&#8221; David Cameron 19th February 2008</p>
<p>Oscar</p>
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		<title>By: Backwoodsman</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/10/12/why-the-hunting-ban-must-stay-in-place/#comment-13790</link>
		<dc:creator>Backwoodsman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Oct 2009 09:08:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is a particularly perverse individual who joins a party where many of the members have a great deal of knowledge on a subject,such as hunting, and despite a complete lack of knowledge on the individuals part, pompously decrees the other members must be wrong. 
Still, with such luminaries as arsonist mike watson and morgage fraudster elliot morley for company, you clearly know best.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is a particularly perverse individual who joins a party where many of the members have a great deal of knowledge on a subject,such as hunting, and despite a complete lack of knowledge on the individuals part, pompously decrees the other members must be wrong.<br />
Still, with such luminaries as arsonist mike watson and morgage fraudster elliot morley for company, you clearly know best.</p>
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		<title>By: John Wrexham</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/10/12/why-the-hunting-ban-must-stay-in-place/#comment-13781</link>
		<dc:creator>John Wrexham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 23:09:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If hunt suppporters want to ensure their sport survives, they&#039;d be best campaigning for the current ineffective law to stay on the statute book. 

if the hunting act is repealed, i am quite sure the next labour government, however far that may be in the future, will be forced by its MPs to introduce a rather better written piece of legislation that actually ensures hunting is banned. hunting is the easiest bit of red meat for any labour government to chuck to those on the left: why tackle the bankers in the city when you can bait &#039;toffs&#039; on horseback! 

meanwhile, it is time the right wing of the conservative party started concentrating on real issues, rather than charging at windmills and wallowing in ninety eighties nostalgia. don&#039;t be as shortsighted as the left wingers are in the labour party.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If hunt suppporters want to ensure their sport survives, they&#8217;d be best campaigning for the current ineffective law to stay on the statute book. </p>
<p>if the hunting act is repealed, i am quite sure the next labour government, however far that may be in the future, will be forced by its MPs to introduce a rather better written piece of legislation that actually ensures hunting is banned. hunting is the easiest bit of red meat for any labour government to chuck to those on the left: why tackle the bankers in the city when you can bait &#8216;toffs&#8217; on horseback! </p>
<p>meanwhile, it is time the right wing of the conservative party started concentrating on real issues, rather than charging at windmills and wallowing in ninety eighties nostalgia. don&#8217;t be as shortsighted as the left wingers are in the labour party.</p>
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		<title>By: Green's Diary » Blog Archive » Green’s 5 A Day – Monday</title>
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		<dc:creator>Green's Diary » Blog Archive » Green’s 5 A Day – Monday</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 20:01:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Letters From A Tory goes against the party line on fox hunting [...]</description>
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		<title>By: LFAT</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/10/12/why-the-hunting-ban-must-stay-in-place/#comment-13777</link>
		<dc:creator>LFAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 19:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know, I was agreeing with you and expanding my own point a bit!!!  Apologies for the confusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know, I was agreeing with you and expanding my own point a bit!!!  Apologies for the confusion.</p>
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		<title>By: pharbitis</title>
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		<dc:creator>pharbitis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 18:04:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-13756&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@ LFAT&lt;/a&gt;Sejan, yes.  Any other questions?

Doug, I take your point but I was referring more to the perception that hunting is undertaken by a few rich country dwellers, which I hope you accept is a long way divorced from the lives that many people live.  That is not to say that something should be ignored just because a lot of voters don&#039;t understand it, but my belief that the hunting act should be put to one side for the time being is more to do with electoral strategy than the precise rights and wrongs of the legislation.

Pharbitis, Cameron understood the need to &#039;detox&#039; the Conservative brand from the moment he took over as leader and he has undoubtedly done a stunning job.  If he throws in the towel now and goes back to traditionally right-of-centre concerns, all his hard work will go up in smoke.&lt;/blockquote&gt;


LFAT - erm..... that was the point I was making....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><a href='#comment-13756' rel="nofollow">@ LFAT</a>Sejan, yes.  Any other questions?</p>
<p>Doug, I take your point but I was referring more to the perception that hunting is undertaken by a few rich country dwellers, which I hope you accept is a long way divorced from the lives that many people live.  That is not to say that something should be ignored just because a lot of voters don&#8217;t understand it, but my belief that the hunting act should be put to one side for the time being is more to do with electoral strategy than the precise rights and wrongs of the legislation.</p>
<p>Pharbitis, Cameron understood the need to &#8216;detox&#8217; the Conservative brand from the moment he took over as leader and he has undoubtedly done a stunning job.  If he throws in the towel now and goes back to traditionally right-of-centre concerns, all his hard work will go up in smoke.</p></blockquote>
<p>LFAT &#8211; erm&#8230;.. that was the point I was making&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Reason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 17:17:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun Pilkington:  October 12th, 2009 at 2:41 pm: 
&quot;I really, really like the idea of a great repeal (*cough* Reform) bill.

ID cards, the RIPA powers to Councils, Smoking Ban, Tax Credits, Hunting, Lisbon…. &quot;

You can add to the list of laws to be repealed: the soon to be introduced curbs on striptease/lapdancing.  A badly written, vindictive piece of legislation lobbied by the tax-payer funded anti-anything I don&#039;t like brigade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun Pilkington:  October 12th, 2009 at 2:41 pm:<br />
&#8220;I really, really like the idea of a great repeal (*cough* Reform) bill.</p>
<p>ID cards, the RIPA powers to Councils, Smoking Ban, Tax Credits, Hunting, Lisbon…. &#8221;</p>
<p>You can add to the list of laws to be repealed: the soon to be introduced curbs on striptease/lapdancing.  A badly written, vindictive piece of legislation lobbied by the tax-payer funded anti-anything I don&#8217;t like brigade.</p>
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