Comments on: Republicans still unable to touch Obama http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/ Daily views on British politics and the Conservative Party from a centre-right thinker who writes letters on his blog to politicians, journalists and many others. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:10:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Matt http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11186 Matt Thu, 16 Jul 2009 21:52:26 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11186 This article focuses on one side of the coin - the internal Republican dynamics and what face that portrays to the American people. But the other side is (and this is a question, not a comment) does the 'floating vote' actually want to listen? As with post-1997 here, will it take a fair amount of time (2012/13/14?) for the aura of the 'new' to fade before any arguments will actually be listened to by the public?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11186','Matt'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11186','Matt','This article focuses on one side of the coin - the internal Republican dynamics and what face that portrays to the American people. But the other side is (and this is a question, not a comment) does the \'floating vote\' actually want to listen? As with post-1997 here, will it take a fair amount of time (2012\/13\/14?) for the aura of the \'new\' to fade before any arguments will actually be listened to by the public?'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> This article focuses on one side of the coin – the internal Republican dynamics and what face that portrays to the American people. But the other side is (and this is a question, not a comment) does the ‘floating vote’ actually want to listen? As with post-1997 here, will it take a fair amount of time (2012/13/14?) for the aura of the ‘new’ to fade before any arguments will actually be listened to by the public?
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]]> By: JuliaM http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11182 JuliaM Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:57:01 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11182 <i>"Do we really want the GOP to play the Chicago way?"</i> Well, indeed! They should never forget which side has all the guns... ;)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11182','JuliaM'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11182','JuliaM','<i>\"Do we really want the GOP to play the Chicago way?\"<\/i> \n\nWell, indeed! They should never forget which side has all the guns... \n\n;)'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> “Do we really want the GOP to play the Chicago way?”

Well, indeed! They should never forget which side has all the guns…
;)

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]]> By: Obsidian http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11181 Obsidian Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:34:34 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11181 @asquith Do we really want the GOP to play the Chicago way? "You wanna know how you do it? Here's how, they pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That's the Chicago way!" ;)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11181','Obsidian'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11181','Obsidian','@asquith\r\n\r\nDo we really want the GOP to play the Chicago way?\r\n\r\n\"You wanna know how you do it? Here\'s how, they pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That\'s the Chicago way!\" ;)'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> @asquith

Do we really want the GOP to play the Chicago way?

“You wanna know how you do it? Here’s how, they pull a knife, you pull a gun. He sends one of yours to the hospital, you send one of his to the morgue. That’s the Chicago way!” ;)

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]]> By: Obsidian http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11180 Obsidian Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:31:55 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11180 @Candid Whilst I agree that reducing nuclear arms is a Good Thing in the long-term, I'm a tad concerned about the short-term. Given Russia's economic woes, it's general disgruntlement over the Bush administrations failure to treat it as an equal, its current slide back towards anti-westernism and Putin/Medvedev's contentment to roll into ex-Soviet states when they feel like flexing their muscles and giving the Russians something to distract from their day-to-day lives, I'm unsure as to the wisdom on freeing up its nuclear budget so it can spend away on conventional weaponry. The Bear's claws are currently rotten and weak, giving it the chance to heal them so it can use them effectively once more would seem to be an act that can only lead to more war rather than less.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11180','Obsidian'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11180','Obsidian','@Candid\r\n\r\nWhilst I agree that reducing nuclear arms is a Good Thing in the long-term, I\'m a tad concerned about the short-term. Given Russia\'s economic woes, it\'s general disgruntlement over the Bush administrations failure to treat it as an equal, its current slide back towards anti-westernism and Putin\/Medvedev\'s contentment to roll into ex-Soviet states when they feel like flexing their muscles and giving the Russians something to distract from their day-to-day lives, I\'m unsure as to the wisdom on freeing up its nuclear budget so it can spend away on conventional weaponry.\r\n\r\nThe Bear\'s claws are currently rotten and weak, giving it the chance to heal them so it can use them effectively once more would seem to be an act that can only lead to more war rather than less.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> @Candid

Whilst I agree that reducing nuclear arms is a Good Thing in the long-term, I’m a tad concerned about the short-term. Given Russia’s economic woes, it’s general disgruntlement over the Bush administrations failure to treat it as an equal, its current slide back towards anti-westernism and Putin/Medvedev’s contentment to roll into ex-Soviet states when they feel like flexing their muscles and giving the Russians something to distract from their day-to-day lives, I’m unsure as to the wisdom on freeing up its nuclear budget so it can spend away on conventional weaponry.

The Bear’s claws are currently rotten and weak, giving it the chance to heal them so it can use them effectively once more would seem to be an act that can only lead to more war rather than less.

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]]> By: asquith http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11179 asquith Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:24:19 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11179 I refer to the bombing of Republicans in the polls subsequent to the election. These polls, gloating about any possible setbacks for Obama, all show GOP ratings even worse. I tell you what. The right are wishing they'd never dismissed "community organisers" so lightly now. Because they're being forced to take his political skills, learnt in Chicago, a bit more seriously.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11179','asquith'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11179','asquith','I refer to the bombing of Republicans in the polls subsequent to the election. These polls, gloating about any possible setbacks for Obama, all show GOP ratings even worse.\r\n\r\nI tell you what. The right are wishing they\'d never dismissed \"community organisers\" so lightly now. Because they\'re being forced to take his political skills, learnt in Chicago, a bit more seriously.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> I refer to the bombing of Republicans in the polls subsequent to the election. These polls, gloating about any possible setbacks for Obama, all show GOP ratings even worse.

I tell you what. The right are wishing they’d never dismissed “community organisers” so lightly now. Because they’re being forced to take his political skills, learnt in Chicago, a bit more seriously.

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]]> By: JuliaM http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11176 JuliaM Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:19:12 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11176 “They just can’t get it into their heads that America rejects their ideology. “

*sigh*

2008 election results:

Obama – 69,456,897 McCain – 59,934,814

Not exactly a landslide for the Messiah. Or a ‘rejection’ of the Republicans, though they fielded an exceptionally poor candidate who many considered a RINO…

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]]> By: JuliaM http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11175 JuliaM Thu, 16 Jul 2009 19:15:27 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11175 <i>"Obama has turned that wround by appointing some of the top scientists to top positions..."</i> Like <a href="http://davidthompson.typepad.com/davidthompson/2009/07/a-czar-you-say-.html" rel="nofollow">this</a> charming fellow?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11175','JuliaM'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11175','JuliaM','<i>\"Obama has turned that wround by appointing some of the top scientists to top positions...\"<\/i> \r\n\r\nLike <a href=\"http:\/\/davidthompson.typepad.com\/davidthompson\/2009\/07\/a-czar-you-say-.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">this<\/a> charming fellow?'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> “Obama has turned that wround by appointing some of the top scientists to top positions…”

Like this charming fellow?

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]]> By: asquith http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11174 asquith Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:51:30 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11174 I love reading Republican "blogs" for pure schadenfreude. The stench of outrage, victimhood & pure whinging entitlement makes me laugh my head off every time. They just can't get it into their heads that America rejects their ideology.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11174','asquith'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11174','asquith','I love reading Republican \"blogs\" for pure schadenfreude. The stench of outrage, victimhood & pure whinging entitlement makes me laugh my head off every time. \r\n\r\nThey just can\'t get it into their heads that America rejects their ideology.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> I love reading Republican “blogs” for pure schadenfreude. The stench of outrage, victimhood & pure whinging entitlement makes me laugh my head off every time.

They just can’t get it into their heads that America rejects their ideology.

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]]> By: Candid http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11173 Candid Thu, 16 Jul 2009 18:19:24 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11173 So far Obama has done amazing thigs for science in the US after Bush dismissed his scientific advisor and stopped stem cell research. Obama has turned that wround by appointing some of the top scientists to top positions (rather than people who agree with his politics as Bush did) and he has started to make America Green! That will be a long struggle but the man is making progress. And his agreements over nuclear weapons with Russia are legendary. I don't care if he is not a great public speaker without a prompter it is actions by which he should be judged!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('11173','Candid'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('11173','Candid','So far Obama has done amazing thigs for science in the US after Bush dismissed his scientific advisor and stopped stem cell research. Obama has turned that wround by appointing some of the top scientists to top positions (rather than people who agree with his politics as Bush did) and he has started to make America Green! That will be a long struggle but the man is making progress. And his agreements over nuclear weapons with Russia are legendary.\r\n\r\nI don\'t care if he is not a great public speaker without a prompter it is actions by which he should be judged!'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> So far Obama has done amazing thigs for science in the US after Bush dismissed his scientific advisor and stopped stem cell research. Obama has turned that wround by appointing some of the top scientists to top positions (rather than people who agree with his politics as Bush did) and he has started to make America Green! That will be a long struggle but the man is making progress. And his agreements over nuclear weapons with Russia are legendary.

I don’t care if he is not a great public speaker without a prompter it is actions by which he should be judged!

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]]> By: JuliaM http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/16/republicans-still-unable-to-touch-obama/#comment-11170 JuliaM Thu, 16 Jul 2009 17:17:42 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=3715#comment-11170 “..well, the least you can say for the wing-nuts (sorry, is that too much of an americanism, too?) like you is that you’re nothing if not predictable…”

Where do you pick up your colloquialisms? Hufington Post? Daily Kos?

“..linking to Fox News in support of your case?..”

Did they falsify the report then? Did the propmpter not break? Do tell…

“..allow me point you at the last but one Republican leadership hopeful: Bobbbby JIN-dalllll!. “

Yes, what about him? Unlikely to be in the running for pretty much the same reason as Palin, as I outlined above.

Oh, and ‘Thinkprogress: the most inappropriately named blog ever’? Discuss….

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