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	<title>Comments on: Andy Coulson takes centre stage for all the wrong reasons</title>
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		<title>By: Stan</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/10/another-dark-day-for-politics/#comment-10981</link>
		<dc:creator>Stan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 15:02:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Stan, I don’t like it any more than you do but does Cameron really have a choice?&quot;

Of course he has a choice. Even if you accept that a modern political party needs a media manager why does it have to be someone from the gutter press?

I think that employing someone who has made their mark by appeailing to the lowest common denominator is not particularly good for our political scene. If you like politics to be all emotion and show rather than substance and policy - then it&#039;s ideal. But I happen to think that we desreve better than that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Stan, I don’t like it any more than you do but does Cameron really have a choice?&#8221;</p>
<p>Of course he has a choice. Even if you accept that a modern political party needs a media manager why does it have to be someone from the gutter press?</p>
<p>I think that employing someone who has made their mark by appeailing to the lowest common denominator is not particularly good for our political scene. If you like politics to be all emotion and show rather than substance and policy &#8211; then it&#8217;s ideal. But I happen to think that we desreve better than that.</p>
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		<title>By: GrassyKnollington</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/10/another-dark-day-for-politics/#comment-10980</link>
		<dc:creator>GrassyKnollington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 14:14:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I&#039;d consider myself a Tory (probably closer to Libertarian, but who cares....) I&#039;d be surprised if any fellow Tories are surprised by our hiring of a murky Spin Doctor.

Labour have damaged the administration of every-day political workings with their manipulation and spin, a result of which, Dave feels unable to function in modern day politics without similarly indulging in the &quot;dark-arts&quot;. Disappointing.

More on point, if there is nothing in terms of new evidence and new revelations to add to a story which resulted in Coulson resigning and a couple of hacks getting the &quot;gaol&quot;, then who really cares? Is this revenge from the Left following McBride-gate? Next we&#039;ll be hearing that Elvis died and that Nick Griffin holds some questionable opinions....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I&#8217;d consider myself a Tory (probably closer to Libertarian, but who cares&#8230;.) I&#8217;d be surprised if any fellow Tories are surprised by our hiring of a murky Spin Doctor.</p>
<p>Labour have damaged the administration of every-day political workings with their manipulation and spin, a result of which, Dave feels unable to function in modern day politics without similarly indulging in the &#8220;dark-arts&#8221;. Disappointing.</p>
<p>More on point, if there is nothing in terms of new evidence and new revelations to add to a story which resulted in Coulson resigning and a couple of hacks getting the &#8220;gaol&#8221;, then who really cares? Is this revenge from the Left following McBride-gate? Next we&#8217;ll be hearing that Elvis died and that Nick Griffin holds some questionable opinions&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: North Northwester</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/10/another-dark-day-for-politics/#comment-10979</link>
		<dc:creator>North Northwester</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 13:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>“…the very fact that people like you are in demand and worth £485,000 a year to the Conservative Party says to me loud and clear that politics has lost its way.“

Hmm. A spin doctor who ATTRACTS  dirt to his own side... Does anyone else out there think that maybe Miste Cameron bought his press manager in the same dodgy knockoff shop that the MOD got its new - and lethal to their passengers -APCs?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“…the very fact that people like you are in demand and worth £485,000 a year to the Conservative Party says to me loud and clear that politics has lost its way.“</p>
<p>Hmm. A spin doctor who ATTRACTS  dirt to his own side&#8230; Does anyone else out there think that maybe Miste Cameron bought his press manager in the same dodgy knockoff shop that the MOD got its new &#8211; and lethal to their passengers -APCs?</p>
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		<title>By: jameshigham</title>
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		<dc:creator>jameshigham</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 12:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If he did it, he needs to be picked up for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If he did it, he needs to be picked up for it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Reckons</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/10/another-dark-day-for-politics/#comment-10977</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Reckons</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:48:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post LFAT. Coulson&#039;s presence in the upper echelons of the Tory party is indeed symptomatic of the malaise our politics finds itself in.

I hope he does go soon but the sad thing is he will probably just be replaced with someone else well versed in the &quot;dark arts&quot;. Twas ever thus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post LFAT. Coulson&#8217;s presence in the upper echelons of the Tory party is indeed symptomatic of the malaise our politics finds itself in.</p>
<p>I hope he does go soon but the sad thing is he will probably just be replaced with someone else well versed in the &#8220;dark arts&#8221;. Twas ever thus.</p>
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		<title>By: grumpy old man</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/10/another-dark-day-for-politics/#comment-10976</link>
		<dc:creator>grumpy old man</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:45:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Tony.   Since the wheels started to come off the 1000 year Socialist Utopia about 3 years ago, Labour has been pulling every trick in the book to convince the Electorate that, &quot;they are as bad as we are&quot;.   The Tories should be doing their utmost to avoid giving their opponents legitimate cause to substantiate this claim.  DC has the high ground (just) on expenses.  he must now attempt to claim the high ground on smears.  I hope the brains of the party can fight clever rather than dirty, and that Coulsons&#039; brief is to use his poacher&#039;s talents as gamekeeper.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Tony.   Since the wheels started to come off the 1000 year Socialist Utopia about 3 years ago, Labour has been pulling every trick in the book to convince the Electorate that, &#8220;they are as bad as we are&#8221;.   The Tories should be doing their utmost to avoid giving their opponents legitimate cause to substantiate this claim.  DC has the high ground (just) on expenses.  he must now attempt to claim the high ground on smears.  I hope the brains of the party can fight clever rather than dirty, and that Coulsons&#8217; brief is to use his poacher&#8217;s talents as gamekeeper.</p>
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		<title>By: Tony E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:29:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem for Cameron is how to proceed from here. If he allows the Guardian its scalp for today, they will just be back for another one, and another from here to May 2010.

The Labour party are now beyond conscience in the way that they will employ any smear to stay in power. Mastery of the media has been their only strength over the last ten years, they cannot lose it and retain power. Remember how, in the run up to 1997, employed the services of such degenerates as Max Clifford, but when they were involved in sexual scandals it was a &#039;private matter&#039;, or privacy laws were called for. Their ability to manipulate the agenda for their own means is their primary skill. (It certainly isn&#039;t fiscal policy and good governance, whatever they might have us believe).

So Cameron must support Coulson, however bad the allegations unless they can substantiated. The police do not want to pursue this, there is no proof that any phone tapping has gone on beyond that which has been charged and convicted. The DPP, (a political appointee in all but name), could reopen the case, but it would chunter on with no hope of evidence, which is of course Labour&#039;s hope, a running sore.

It&#039;s time to fight back, and fight dirty with Coulson&#039;s help if necessary. After the election, then Conservatives can govern in a clean and decent way, but until then we must play the game by the rules that the governing party has set until we are in a position to set the rules ourselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem for Cameron is how to proceed from here. If he allows the Guardian its scalp for today, they will just be back for another one, and another from here to May 2010.</p>
<p>The Labour party are now beyond conscience in the way that they will employ any smear to stay in power. Mastery of the media has been their only strength over the last ten years, they cannot lose it and retain power. Remember how, in the run up to 1997, employed the services of such degenerates as Max Clifford, but when they were involved in sexual scandals it was a &#8216;private matter&#8217;, or privacy laws were called for. Their ability to manipulate the agenda for their own means is their primary skill. (It certainly isn&#8217;t fiscal policy and good governance, whatever they might have us believe).</p>
<p>So Cameron must support Coulson, however bad the allegations unless they can substantiated. The police do not want to pursue this, there is no proof that any phone tapping has gone on beyond that which has been charged and convicted. The DPP, (a political appointee in all but name), could reopen the case, but it would chunter on with no hope of evidence, which is of course Labour&#8217;s hope, a running sore.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s time to fight back, and fight dirty with Coulson&#8217;s help if necessary. After the election, then Conservatives can govern in a clean and decent way, but until then we must play the game by the rules that the governing party has set until we are in a position to set the rules ourselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill Quango MP</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bill Quango MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 10:26:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you read Flat earth News LFAT? Its all in there. 
I wasn&#039;t as surprised by that book as i thought I would be.
Journalists hire bin men/PI to go through the waste. Journos contact friends with a false story to get a phone number etc.
What I didn&#039;t realise was that separate black ops taskforces,fronted by deniable cutouts, like recently fired or resigned editors . Very WW2. Very McBride and I suppose very Coulson.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you read Flat earth News LFAT? Its all in there.<br />
I wasn&#8217;t as surprised by that book as i thought I would be.<br />
Journalists hire bin men/PI to go through the waste. Journos contact friends with a false story to get a phone number etc.<br />
What I didn&#8217;t realise was that separate black ops taskforces,fronted by deniable cutouts, like recently fired or resigned editors . Very WW2. Very McBride and I suppose very Coulson.</p>
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		<title>By: LFAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LFAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Charles, this was clearly a political campaign mounted by the Guardian to dig up old news - there has never been any evidence of wrongdoing by Coulson but the Guardian wants you to believe that there has been.

GOH, it is only the UK press that can ever be controlled but they are 100% responsible for everything that they publish and should be treated as such.  No information about anyone&#039;s private life should be able to be legally published, save for information about elected representatives who behave in such a way that brings the position into disrepute.  Rogue journalism is not an excuse for invading someone&#039;s privacy - editors and newspaper/magazine owners must be held liable for every word in their publications.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Charles, this was clearly a political campaign mounted by the Guardian to dig up old news &#8211; there has never been any evidence of wrongdoing by Coulson but the Guardian wants you to believe that there has been.</p>
<p>GOH, it is only the UK press that can ever be controlled but they are 100% responsible for everything that they publish and should be treated as such.  No information about anyone&#8217;s private life should be able to be legally published, save for information about elected representatives who behave in such a way that brings the position into disrepute.  Rogue journalism is not an excuse for invading someone&#8217;s privacy &#8211; editors and newspaper/magazine owners must be held liable for every word in their publications.</p>
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		<title>By: A siren call? - Blogs - NewsSpotz</title>
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		<dc:creator>A siren call? - Blogs - NewsSpotz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 09:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] a bit tied up at the moment doing other things but I had a look at Letters from a Tory. This is an excellent letter to a certain Mr. Andy Coulson. I encourage as many to read [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] a bit tied up at the moment doing other things but I had a look at Letters from a Tory. This is an excellent letter to a certain Mr. Andy Coulson. I encourage as many to read [...]</p>
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