Comments on: Quote of the day http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/ Daily views on British politics and the Conservative Party from a centre-right thinker who writes letters on his blog to politicians, journalists and many others. Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:06:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Stan http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10881 Stan Tue, 07 Jul 2009 10:56:52 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10881 I don't see anything wrong with that quote. It is the nature of Christianity to oppose the sin, not the sinner and whether or not you or I think homosexuality is a sin is irrelevant - the Bishop of Rochester clearly does (and, going by a strict interpretation of the 10 Commandments, God appears to think so too). Jesus went out of his way to associate with sinners (including tax collectors - socialists, please note: Jesus was not "the first socialist" believing, as he clearly did, that the collecting of tax was a sin against God and that the redistribution of wealth should be entirely voluntary).<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10881','Stan'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10881','Stan','I don\'t see anything wrong with that quote. It is the nature of Christianity to oppose the sin, not the sinner and whether or not you or I think homosexuality is a sin is irrelevant - the Bishop of Rochester clearly does (and, going by a strict interpretation of the 10 Commandments, God appears to think so too). \r\n\r\nJesus went out of his way to associate with sinners (including tax collectors - socialists, please note: Jesus was not \"the first socialist\" believing, as he clearly did, that the collecting of tax was a sin against God and that the redistribution of wealth should be entirely voluntary).'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> I don’t see anything wrong with that quote. It is the nature of Christianity to oppose the sin, not the sinner and whether or not you or I think homosexuality is a sin is irrelevant – the Bishop of Rochester clearly does (and, going by a strict interpretation of the 10 Commandments, God appears to think so too).

Jesus went out of his way to associate with sinners (including tax collectors – socialists, please note: Jesus was not “the first socialist” believing, as he clearly did, that the collecting of tax was a sin against God and that the redistribution of wealth should be entirely voluntary).

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]]> By: LFAT http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10874 LFAT Tue, 07 Jul 2009 05:58:38 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10874 He is certainly being consistent with theology, but not so consistent with anything that a political leader wants to be seen anywhere near....<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10874','LFAT'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10874','LFAT','He is certainly being consistent with theology, but not so consistent with anything that a political leader wants to be seen anywhere near....'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> He is certainly being consistent with theology, but not so consistent with anything that a political leader wants to be seen anywhere near….
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]]> By: Daniela Major http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10870 Daniela Major Mon, 06 Jul 2009 21:23:25 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10870 I´m so tired of this kind of declarations! I´ve seen, I´ve heard so many similar to this. I do believe that unless the Church changes their views in basic points they will became a minority in a few years. Speaking of the Catholic Church, the Pope have already said it: "The catholic church will have to learn to live as a minority." The truth is that they don´t want to change because they are always going to think that they are right. I mean...took them ages to ask apoligize for the Inquisition.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10870','Daniela Major'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10870','Daniela Major','I´m so tired of this kind of declarations! I´ve seen, I´ve heard so many similar to this. I do believe that unless the Church changes their views in basic points they will became a minority in a few years. \r\n\r\nSpeaking of the Catholic Church, the Pope have already said it: \"The catholic church will have to learn to live as a minority.\" The truth is that they don´t want to change because they are always going to think that they are right. I mean...took them ages to ask apoligize for the Inquisition.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> I´m so tired of this kind of declarations! I´ve seen, I´ve heard so many similar to this. I do believe that unless the Church changes their views in basic points they will became a minority in a few years.

Speaking of the Catholic Church, the Pope have already said it: “The catholic church will have to learn to live as a minority.” The truth is that they don´t want to change because they are always going to think that they are right. I mean…took them ages to ask apoligize for the Inquisition.

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]]> By: FLS http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10867 FLS Mon, 06 Jul 2009 20:35:32 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10867 Sue, I fail to see how what he said was 'just another form of extremism'. You may not agree with it, but as Charles pointed out, it is entirely consistent with Christian theology. Unless of course you consider the entire religion of Christianity as 'just another form of extremism'.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10867','FLS'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10867','FLS','Sue,\r\n\r\nI fail to see how what he said was \'just another form of extremism\'. \r\n\r\nYou may not agree with it, but as Charles pointed out, it is entirely consistent with Christian theology.\r\n\r\nUnless of course you consider the entire religion of Christianity as \'just another form of extremism\'.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Sue,

I fail to see how what he said was ‘just another form of extremism’.

You may not agree with it, but as Charles pointed out, it is entirely consistent with Christian theology.

Unless of course you consider the entire religion of Christianity as ‘just another form of extremism’.

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]]> By: Sue http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10866 Sue Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:52:50 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10866 Just another form of extremism. The Bishop of Rochester is a dickhead!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10866','Sue'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10866','Sue','Just another form of extremism. The Bishop of Rochester is a dickhead!'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Just another form of extremism. The Bishop of Rochester is a dickhead!
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]]> By: Charles http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10865 Charles Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:15:23 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10865 Although, of course, if you take what +Michael is saying literally, their homosexuality doesn’t matter.

Just try the following:

“We welcome thieves, we don’t want to exclude people, but we want them to repent and be changed”

“We welcome traffic wardens, we don’t want to exclude people, but we want them to repent and be changed”

“We welcome Labour voters, we don’t want to exclude people, but we want them to repent and be changed”

All consistent with Christian theology. Regardless of your views of homosexuality, everyone needs to repent and be changed.

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]]> By: Tony E http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10863 Tony E Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:21:35 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10863 This is one of the best bishops the C of E has on offer. The problem is that with the modern age of science and knowledge, we just don't need religeon to explain most of the things that we see in our daily lives. Fear is the only thing that religeon can trade on, fear of what happens when we are dead, hence the old line: repent and you will be saved! If I were gay, I'm sure that would encourage me to back to the arms of the estabished church!! Can't wait to see what Iain Dale makes of it, should make for interesting reading!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10863','Tony E'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10863','Tony E','This is one of the best bishops the C of E has on offer.\r\n\r\nThe problem is that with the modern age of science and knowledge, we just don\'t need religeon to explain most of the things that we see in our daily lives. Fear is the only thing that religeon can trade on, fear of what happens when we are dead, hence the old line: repent and you will be saved! If I were gay, I\'m sure that would encourage me to back to the arms of the estabished church!!\r\n\r\nCan\'t wait to see what Iain Dale makes of it, should make for interesting reading!'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> This is one of the best bishops the C of E has on offer.

The problem is that with the modern age of science and knowledge, we just don’t need religeon to explain most of the things that we see in our daily lives. Fear is the only thing that religeon can trade on, fear of what happens when we are dead, hence the old line: repent and you will be saved! If I were gay, I’m sure that would encourage me to back to the arms of the estabished church!!

Can’t wait to see what Iain Dale makes of it, should make for interesting reading!

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]]> By: Hetty http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10862 Hetty Mon, 06 Jul 2009 16:14:17 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10862 This man is so in tune with ordinary communicants of the anglican church. All the other shepherds are in fact sheep. Sheep in ewe's clothing. Homosexuals generate virtually all the sound and fury and have the whole media and political class in their support although the vast majority are repelled by their ostentation and view of human sexuality. I suspect that the nauseating approaches of the political class to get the homosexual vote will have the opposite effect to the one wished for by Cameron, homosexual MPs, and the government. Homosexuals are entitled to their freedom of choice, but why cannot they just be grateful for that, and just make some attempt to live quietly like the rest of us? These gay pride marches seem to me little more than a direct moral provocation to the normal population.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10862','Hetty'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10862','Hetty','This man is so in tune with ordinary communicants of the anglican church. All the other shepherds are in fact sheep. Sheep in ewe\'s clothing.\r\nHomosexuals generate virtually all the sound and fury and have the whole media and political class in their support although the vast majority are repelled by their ostentation and view of human sexuality.\r\nI suspect that the nauseating approaches of the political class to get the homosexual vote will have the opposite effect to the one wished for by Cameron, homosexual MPs, and the government.\r\nHomosexuals are entitled to their freedom of choice, but why cannot they just be grateful for that, and just make some attempt to live quietly like the rest of us? These gay pride marches seem to me little more than a direct moral provocation to the normal population.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> This man is so in tune with ordinary communicants of the anglican church. All the other shepherds are in fact sheep. Sheep in ewe’s clothing.
Homosexuals generate virtually all the sound and fury and have the whole media and political class in their support although the vast majority are repelled by their ostentation and view of human sexuality.
I suspect that the nauseating approaches of the political class to get the homosexual vote will have the opposite effect to the one wished for by Cameron, homosexual MPs, and the government.
Homosexuals are entitled to their freedom of choice, but why cannot they just be grateful for that, and just make some attempt to live quietly like the rest of us? These gay pride marches seem to me little more than a direct moral provocation to the normal population.
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]]> By: LFAT http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10858 LFAT Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:33:53 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10858 GK, I really don't.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10858','LFAT'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10858','LFAT','GK, I really don\'t.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> GK, I really don’t.
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]]> By: GrassyKnollington http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10856 GrassyKnollington Mon, 06 Jul 2009 14:24:24 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/06/quote-of-the-day-307/#comment-10856 Haha, gotta love the Bishy.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10856','GrassyKnollington'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10856','GrassyKnollington','Haha, gotta love the Bishy.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Haha, gotta love the Bishy.
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