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		<title>By: Shaun Pilkington</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/04/section-28-was-a-good-idea-that-was-implemented-badly/#comment-10819</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Pilkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 10:08:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the world your faith-community mates, to whom Blair and Brown and the rest of the Parliamentry sheep have pandered, that&#039;s almost exactly the case. Your and my secular, civil marriage is of no value to them and homosexuals should &lt;a href=&quot;http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8134797.stm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&#039;repent and change&#039;&lt;/a&gt;. 

Shame Blair rolled over for anyone with a Sky Fairy, isn&#039;t it?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10819&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10819&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;,&#039;In the world your faith-community mates, to whom Blair and Brown and the rest of the Parliamentry sheep have pandered, that\&#039;s almost exactly the case. Your and my secular, civil marriage is of no value to them and homosexuals should &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/uk\/8134797.stm\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;\&#039;repent and change\&#039;&lt;\/a&gt;. \r\n\r\nShame Blair rolled over for anyone with a Sky Fairy, isn\&#039;t it?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the world your faith-community mates, to whom Blair and Brown and the rest of the Parliamentry sheep have pandered, that&#8217;s almost exactly the case. Your and my secular, civil marriage is of no value to them and homosexuals should <a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/8134797.stm" rel="nofollow">&#8216;repent and change&#8217;</a>. </p>
<p>Shame Blair rolled over for anyone with a Sky Fairy, isn&#8217;t it?
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		<title>By: Bob Piper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Jul 2009 09:01:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I&#039;m married, in a registrar office, without having any religion or a religious bone in my body. Surely the law shouldn&#039;t allow that in your world?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10817&#039;,&#039;Bob Piper&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10817&#039;,&#039;Bob Piper&#039;,&#039;Well, I\&#039;m married, in a registrar office, without having any religion or a religious bone in my body. Surely the law shouldn\&#039;t allow that in your world?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I&#8217;m married, in a registrar office, without having any religion or a religious bone in my body. Surely the law shouldn&#8217;t allow that in your world?
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		<title>By: LFAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LFAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:27:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, you&#039;re right - sex education should go a long way beyond promoting or not promoting homosexuality.

Plato, that particular state of affairs is always disappointing.

Humphrey, I don&#039;t agree with homosexual &#039;marriage&#039; because of marriage&#039;s religious background, but civil partnerships make perfect sense to me.

Shaun, I agree that Section 28 provided a focus for many people&#039;s efforts for too long.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10814&#039;,&#039;LFAT&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10814&#039;,&#039;LFAT&#039;,&#039;Bob, you\&#039;re right - sex education should go a long way beyond promoting or not promoting homosexuality.\r\n\r\nPlato, that particular state of affairs is always disappointing.\r\n\r\nHumphrey, I don\&#039;t agree with homosexual \&#039;marriage\&#039; because of marriage\&#039;s religious background, but civil partnerships make perfect sense to me.\r\n\r\nShaun, I agree that Section 28 provided a focus for many people\&#039;s efforts for too long.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, you&#8217;re right &#8211; sex education should go a long way beyond promoting or not promoting homosexuality.</p>
<p>Plato, that particular state of affairs is always disappointing.</p>
<p>Humphrey, I don&#8217;t agree with homosexual &#8216;marriage&#8217; because of marriage&#8217;s religious background, but civil partnerships make perfect sense to me.</p>
<p>Shaun, I agree that Section 28 provided a focus for many people&#8217;s efforts for too long.
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		<title>By: Shaun Pilkington</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/04/section-28-was-a-good-idea-that-was-implemented-badly/#comment-10813</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Pilkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 15:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whether directly by law or more likely, because of the anti-gay hoo-ha surrounding its introduction and the attitudes of its most vociferous supporters (and opponents), Section 28 became *totemic* for gays and bigots alike. The context for its introduction was primary schools like mine having &#039;gay lifesyle is better&#039; books in it&#039;s library in the pre-1979 period, tho that was in the People&#039;s Republic of Islington.

In reality banning the &#039;promotion&#039; of a sexuality is both illiberal and a nonsense (since sexuality certainly appears to be biologically determined), but served the purposes well enough of former Hitler-supporters like the Daily &lt;strike&gt;F&lt;/strike&gt;Mail who wanted something to strike back at the ever more voluble gay-liberation movement to that very movement, for whom it became a rallying point.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10813&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10813&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;,&#039;Whether directly by law or more likely, because of the anti-gay hoo-ha surrounding its introduction and the attitudes of its most vociferous supporters (and opponents), Section 28 became *totemic* for gays and bigots alike. The context for its introduction was primary schools like mine having \&#039;gay lifesyle is better\&#039; books in it\&#039;s library in the pre-1979 period, tho that was in the People\&#039;s Republic of Islington.\n\nIn reality banning the \&#039;promotion\&#039; of a sexuality is both illiberal and a nonsense (since sexuality certainly appears to be biologically determined), but served the purposes well enough of former Hitler-supporters like the Daily &lt;strike&gt;F&lt;\/strike&gt;Mail who wanted something to strike back at the ever more voluble gay-liberation movement to that very movement, for whom it became a rallying point.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whether directly by law or more likely, because of the anti-gay hoo-ha surrounding its introduction and the attitudes of its most vociferous supporters (and opponents), Section 28 became *totemic* for gays and bigots alike. The context for its introduction was primary schools like mine having &#8216;gay lifesyle is better&#8217; books in it&#8217;s library in the pre-1979 period, tho that was in the People&#8217;s Republic of Islington.</p>
<p>In reality banning the &#8216;promotion&#8217; of a sexuality is both illiberal and a nonsense (since sexuality certainly appears to be biologically determined), but served the purposes well enough of former Hitler-supporters like the Daily <strike>F</strike>Mail who wanted something to strike back at the ever more voluble gay-liberation movement to that very movement, for whom it became a rallying point.
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		<title>By: Humphrey</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/04/section-28-was-a-good-idea-that-was-implemented-badly/#comment-10811</link>
		<dc:creator>Humphrey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 14:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My dear Tory, I´m recent reader of your blog and even though I agree with the position you expressed in this post, I still haven´t understand whether you are in favour of homossexual marriage or not.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10811&#039;,&#039;Humphrey&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10811&#039;,&#039;Humphrey&#039;,&#039;My dear Tory, I&#194;&#180;m recent reader of your blog and even though I agree with the position you expressed in this post, I still haven&#194;&#180;t understand whether you are in favour of homossexual marriage or not.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My dear Tory, I´m recent reader of your blog and even though I agree with the position you expressed in this post, I still haven´t understand whether you are in favour of homossexual marriage or not.
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/04/section-28-was-a-good-idea-that-was-implemented-badly/#comment-10810</link>
		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 13:33:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I didn&#039;t like what Section 28 was about but have sympathy with those who felt that the agenda had swung too far the other way.

I don&#039;t want the promotion of any way of life or political agenda in our schools - whether it is religion, sexuality, global warming or whatever.

Kids should not be subjected to the opinions of those who are in a position of influence.  I was at art college in the 80s and the lefty zealots made any whisper of a contrary view impossible.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10810&#039;,&#039;Plato&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10810&#039;,&#039;Plato&#039;,&#039;I didn\&#039;t like what Section 28 was about but have sympathy with those who felt that the agenda had swung too far the other way.\r\n\r\nI don\&#039;t want the promotion of any way of life or political agenda in our schools - whether it is religion, sexuality, global warming or whatever.\r\n\r\nKids should not be subjected to the opinions of those who are in a position of influence.  I was at art college in the 80s and the lefty zealots made any whisper of a contrary view impossible.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I didn&#8217;t like what Section 28 was about but have sympathy with those who felt that the agenda had swung too far the other way.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t want the promotion of any way of life or political agenda in our schools &#8211; whether it is religion, sexuality, global warming or whatever.</p>
<p>Kids should not be subjected to the opinions of those who are in a position of influence.  I was at art college in the 80s and the lefty zealots made any whisper of a contrary view impossible.
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		<title>By: Bob Piper</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/04/section-28-was-a-good-idea-that-was-implemented-badly/#comment-10809</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 11:13:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Section 28 wasn&#039;t about discriminating against homosexuals... why did it only deal with the issue of homosexual relationships? It&#039;s a simple enough question. If you think &quot;pushing this into the curriculum&quot; was wrong in respect of education about sexuality, presumably &quot;pushing&quot; heterosexual education was equally wrong. So... why only a law about teaching about homosexual relationships?

And I don&#039;t know... believing wikipedia... you&#039;ll believe all that crap in the bible next!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10809&#039;,&#039;Bob Piper&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10809&#039;,&#039;Bob Piper&#039;,&#039;If Section 28 wasn\&#039;t about discriminating against homosexuals... why did it only deal with the issue of homosexual relationships? It\&#039;s a simple enough question. If you think \&quot;pushing this into the curriculum\&quot; was wrong in respect of education about sexuality, presumably \&quot;pushing\&quot; heterosexual education was equally wrong. So... why only a law about teaching about homosexual relationships?\r\n\r\nAnd I don\&#039;t know... believing wikipedia... you\&#039;ll believe all that crap in the bible next!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Section 28 wasn&#8217;t about discriminating against homosexuals&#8230; why did it only deal with the issue of homosexual relationships? It&#8217;s a simple enough question. If you think &#8220;pushing this into the curriculum&#8221; was wrong in respect of education about sexuality, presumably &#8220;pushing&#8221; heterosexual education was equally wrong. So&#8230; why only a law about teaching about homosexual relationships?</p>
<p>And I don&#8217;t know&#8230; believing wikipedia&#8230; you&#8217;ll believe all that crap in the bible next!
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		<title>By: Maria</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:50:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did not agree with Section 28, but the 1980s were such a dust-up, so polarised... love it or hate it, a fascinating decade. I&#039;m just surprised the Clause endured so long. You make a very interesting argument here. I&#039;m no Cameron fan. His stance on England (&quot;sour little Englanders&quot;) and endless posturing to the Scots (banging on about his &quot;Scottish Empire&quot; building ancestors and demonising the big bad English) put me right off him.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10808&#039;,&#039;Maria&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10808&#039;,&#039;Maria&#039;,&#039;I did not agree with Section 28, but the 1980s were such a dust-up, so polarised... love it or hate it, a fascinating decade. I\&#039;m just surprised the Clause endured so long. You make a very interesting argument here. I\&#039;m no Cameron fan. His stance on England (\&quot;sour little Englanders\&quot;) and endless posturing to the Scots (banging on about his \&quot;Scottish Empire\&quot; building ancestors and demonising the big bad English) put me right off him.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did not agree with Section 28, but the 1980s were such a dust-up, so polarised&#8230; love it or hate it, a fascinating decade. I&#8217;m just surprised the Clause endured so long. You make a very interesting argument here. I&#8217;m no Cameron fan. His stance on England (&#8220;sour little Englanders&#8221;) and endless posturing to the Scots (banging on about his &#8220;Scottish Empire&#8221; building ancestors and demonising the big bad English) put me right off him.
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		<title>By: LFAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LFAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:23:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob, I do not labour under any such misapprehensions - please do not make those kind of personal accusations.  Children understanding about sexual relationships is obviously important, but trying to push this into the curriculum for very young primary school children is both unnecessary and pointless.  As I have already said, children at this age are incapable of discussing serious moral and societal issues so they should be focused on core skills that form the spine of their later education - sex education can wait until they are older and more mature.

And where is your evidence that the Daily Mail stories were &quot;garbage&quot;? Did these books not exist?  Were these parents making it up?  Just because you disagree with their stance doesn&#039;t make it &quot;garbage&quot; in itself.  The reference to the GLF manifesto came from Wikipedia.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10807&#039;,&#039;LFAT&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10807&#039;,&#039;LFAT&#039;,&#039;Bob, I do not labour under any such misapprehensions - please do not make those kind of personal accusations.  Children understanding about sexual relationships is obviously important, but trying to push this into the curriculum for very young primary school children is both unnecessary and pointless.  As I have already said, children at this age are incapable of discussing serious moral and societal issues so they should be focused on core skills that form the spine of their later education - sex education can wait until they are older and more mature.\r\n\r\nAnd where is your evidence that the Daily Mail stories were \&quot;garbage\&quot;? Did these books not exist?  Were these parents making it up?  Just because you disagree with their stance doesn\&#039;t make it \&quot;garbage\&quot; in itself.  The reference to the GLF manifesto came from Wikipedia.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob, I do not labour under any such misapprehensions &#8211; please do not make those kind of personal accusations.  Children understanding about sexual relationships is obviously important, but trying to push this into the curriculum for very young primary school children is both unnecessary and pointless.  As I have already said, children at this age are incapable of discussing serious moral and societal issues so they should be focused on core skills that form the spine of their later education &#8211; sex education can wait until they are older and more mature.</p>
<p>And where is your evidence that the Daily Mail stories were &#8220;garbage&#8221;? Did these books not exist?  Were these parents making it up?  Just because you disagree with their stance doesn&#8217;t make it &#8220;garbage&#8221; in itself.  The reference to the GLF manifesto came from Wikipedia.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10807','LFAT'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a>   &#8211;  <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10807','LFAT','Bob, I do not labour under any such misapprehensions - please do not make those kind of personal accusations.  Children understanding about sexual relationships is obviously important, but trying to push this into the curriculum for very young primary school children is both unnecessary and pointless.  As I have already said, children at this age are incapable of discussing serious moral and societal issues so they should be focused on core skills that form the spine of their later education - sex education can wait until they are older and more mature.\r\n\r\nAnd where is your evidence that the Daily Mail stories were \&quot;garbage\&quot;? Did these books not exist?  Were these parents making it up?  Just because you disagree with their stance doesn\'t make it \&quot;garbage\&quot; in itself.  The reference to the GLF manifesto came from Wikipedia.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Bob Piper</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/07/04/section-28-was-a-good-idea-that-was-implemented-badly/#comment-10806</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Piper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Jul 2009 10:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LFat... &quot;I think parties on both sides of the argument had questionable intentions.&quot;

That&#039;s because you labour under the misapprehension that homosexuality can be taught to people. Which is as daft as saying you can catch it.

By &quot;both sides&quot; you mean the moral bigots like Tebbit, Knight and Thatcher on the one hand, and teachers who feel it is important that children understand about sexual relationships, and that being homosexual doesn&#039;t make someone &#039;queer&#039; or a target for bullying, on the other.

The Daily Mail stories were as much garbage then as they are now, and I wonder where your evidence came from which states that the GLF were politically committed to &quot;destroying the family unit for their own political ends.&quot; The whole GLF movement was committed to seeking equality for lesbians and gay men with heterosexual men and women. Yes, they believed in direct action to do so, but their more extreme tactics don&#039;t change their aims, which were defined in The GLF Manifesto:

    *  that all discrimination against gay people, male and female, by the law, by employers, and by society at large should end.

    * that all people who feel attracted to a member of their own sex be taught that such feelings are perfectly valid.

    * that sex education in schools stop being exclusively heterosexual.

    * that psychiatrists stop treating homosexuality as though it were a problem or sickness, thereby giving gay people senseless guilt complexes.

    * that gay people be legally free to contact other gay people through newspaper ads, on the streets, and by any other means they may want, as are heterosexuals, and that police harassment should cease right now.

    * that employers should no longer be allowed to discriminate against anyone on account of their sexual preferences.

    * that the age of consent for gay males be reduced to the same as for straights.

    * that gay people be free to hold hands and kiss in public, as are heterosexuals.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;10806&#039;,&#039;Bob Piper&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;10806&#039;,&#039;Bob Piper&#039;,&#039;LFat... \&quot;I think parties on both sides of the argument had questionable intentions.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThat\&#039;s because you labour under the misapprehension that homosexuality can be taught to people. Which is as daft as saying you can catch it.\r\n\r\nBy \&quot;both sides\&quot; you mean the moral bigots like Tebbit, Knight and Thatcher on the one hand, and teachers who feel it is important that children understand about sexual relationships, and that being homosexual doesn\&#039;t make someone \&#039;queer\&#039; or a target for bullying, on the other.\r\n\r\nThe Daily Mail stories were as much garbage then as they are now, and I wonder where your evidence came from which states that the GLF were politically committed to \&quot;destroying the family unit for their own political ends.\&quot; The whole GLF movement was committed to seeking equality for lesbians and gay men with heterosexual men and women. Yes, they believed in direct action to do so, but their more extreme tactics don\&#039;t change their aims, which were defined in The GLF Manifesto:\r\n\r\n    *  that all discrimination against gay people, male and female, by the law, by employers, and by society at large should end.\r\n\r\n    * that all people who feel attracted to a member of their own sex be taught that such feelings are perfectly valid.\r\n\r\n    * that sex education in schools stop being exclusively heterosexual.\r\n\r\n    * that psychiatrists stop treating homosexuality as though it were a problem or sickness, thereby giving gay people senseless guilt complexes.\r\n\r\n    * that gay people be legally free to contact other gay people through newspaper ads, on the streets, and by any other means they may want, as are heterosexuals, and that police harassment should cease right now.\r\n\r\n    * that employers should no longer be allowed to discriminate against anyone on account of their sexual preferences.\r\n\r\n    * that the age of consent for gay males be reduced to the same as for straights.\r\n\r\n    * that gay people be free to hold hands and kiss in public, as are heterosexuals.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LFat&#8230; &#8220;I think parties on both sides of the argument had questionable intentions.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s because you labour under the misapprehension that homosexuality can be taught to people. Which is as daft as saying you can catch it.</p>
<p>By &#8220;both sides&#8221; you mean the moral bigots like Tebbit, Knight and Thatcher on the one hand, and teachers who feel it is important that children understand about sexual relationships, and that being homosexual doesn&#8217;t make someone &#8216;queer&#8217; or a target for bullying, on the other.</p>
<p>The Daily Mail stories were as much garbage then as they are now, and I wonder where your evidence came from which states that the GLF were politically committed to &#8220;destroying the family unit for their own political ends.&#8221; The whole GLF movement was committed to seeking equality for lesbians and gay men with heterosexual men and women. Yes, they believed in direct action to do so, but their more extreme tactics don&#8217;t change their aims, which were defined in The GLF Manifesto:</p>
<p>    *  that all discrimination against gay people, male and female, by the law, by employers, and by society at large should end.</p>
<p>    * that all people who feel attracted to a member of their own sex be taught that such feelings are perfectly valid.</p>
<p>    * that sex education in schools stop being exclusively heterosexual.</p>
<p>    * that psychiatrists stop treating homosexuality as though it were a problem or sickness, thereby giving gay people senseless guilt complexes.</p>
<p>    * that gay people be legally free to contact other gay people through newspaper ads, on the streets, and by any other means they may want, as are heterosexuals, and that police harassment should cease right now.</p>
<p>    * that employers should no longer be allowed to discriminate against anyone on account of their sexual preferences.</p>
<p>    * that the age of consent for gay males be reduced to the same as for straights.</p>
<p>    * that gay people be free to hold hands and kiss in public, as are heterosexuals.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('10806','Bob Piper'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a>   &#8211;  <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('10806','Bob Piper','LFat... \&quot;I think parties on both sides of the argument had questionable intentions.\&quot;\r\n\r\nThat\'s because you labour under the misapprehension that homosexuality can be taught to people. Which is as daft as saying you can catch it.\r\n\r\nBy \&quot;both sides\&quot; you mean the moral bigots like Tebbit, Knight and Thatcher on the one hand, and teachers who feel it is important that children understand about sexual relationships, and that being homosexual doesn\'t make someone \'queer\' or a target for bullying, on the other.\r\n\r\nThe Daily Mail stories were as much garbage then as they are now, and I wonder where your evidence came from which states that the GLF were politically committed to \&quot;destroying the family unit for their own political ends.\&quot; The whole GLF movement was committed to seeking equality for lesbians and gay men with heterosexual men and women. Yes, they believed in direct action to do so, but their more extreme tactics don\'t change their aims, which were defined in The GLF Manifesto:\r\n\r\n    *  that all discrimination against gay people, male and female, by the law, by employers, and by society at large should end.\r\n\r\n    * that all people who feel attracted to a member of their own sex be taught that such feelings are perfectly valid.\r\n\r\n    * that sex education in schools stop being exclusively heterosexual.\r\n\r\n    * that psychiatrists stop treating homosexuality as though it were a problem or sickness, thereby giving gay people senseless guilt complexes.\r\n\r\n    * that gay people be legally free to contact other gay people through newspaper ads, on the streets, and by any other means they may want, as are heterosexuals, and that police harassment should cease right now.\r\n\r\n    * that employers should no longer be allowed to discriminate against anyone on account of their sexual preferences.\r\n\r\n    * that the age of consent for gay males be reduced to the same as for straights.\r\n\r\n    * that gay people be free to hold hands and kiss in public, as are heterosexuals.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div>
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