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		<title>By: Will</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/03/21/google-street-view-stroke-of-genius-or-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-8102</link>
		<dc:creator>Will</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 16:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Has anyone seen one of the google cars doing illegal driving? 

How about &lt;a href=&quot;http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;cd=1&amp;geocode=FQcALwMdmfDS_w&amp;split=0&amp;t=h&amp;layer=xc&amp;g=Kensington,+Liverpool,+Liverpool+L7,+United+Kingdom&amp;ll=53.412119,-2.946514&amp;spn=0.00181,0.005686&amp;z=18&amp;lci=com.panoramio.all&amp;cbll=53.412116,-2.946654&amp;panoid=FofvbIjmdFnuiWJXXzQizw&amp;cbp=12,300.4367636970225,,0,10.72971569627766&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;this one? &lt;/a&gt;

Cheers&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;8102&#039;,&#039;Will&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;8102&#039;,&#039;Will&#039;,&#039;Has anyone seen one of the google cars doing illegal driving? \r\n\r\nHow about &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/maps.google.com\/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;cd=1&amp;geocode=FQcALwMdmfDS_w&amp;split=0&amp;t=h&amp;layer=xc&amp;g=Kensington,+Liverpool,+Liverpool+L7,+United+Kingdom&amp;ll=53.412119,-2.946514&amp;spn=0.00181,0.005686&amp;z=18&amp;lci=com.panoramio.all&amp;cbll=53.412116,-2.946654&amp;panoid=FofvbIjmdFnuiWJXXzQizw&amp;cbp=12,300.4367636970225,,0,10.72971569627766\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;this one? &lt;\/a&gt;\r\n\r\nCheers&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Has anyone seen one of the google cars doing illegal driving? </p>
<p>How about <a href="http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&amp;source=s_q&amp;hl=en&amp;ie=UTF8&amp;cd=1&amp;geocode=FQcALwMdmfDS_w&amp;split=0&amp;t=h&amp;layer=xc&amp;g=Kensington,+Liverpool,+Liverpool+L7,+United+Kingdom&amp;ll=53.412119,-2.946514&amp;spn=0.00181,0.005686&amp;z=18&amp;lci=com.panoramio.all&amp;cbll=53.412116,-2.946654&amp;panoid=FofvbIjmdFnuiWJXXzQizw&amp;cbp=12,300.4367636970225,,0,10.72971569627766" rel="nofollow">this one? </a></p>
<p>Cheers
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		<title>By: Von Spreuth</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/03/21/google-street-view-stroke-of-genius-or-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-8092</link>
		<dc:creator>Von Spreuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Mar 2009 13:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the creator of the image that gains finacialy and has the copy right. UNLESS you have your property declared an art object by some obscure Royal college or something I guess.</p>
<p>You have also got to look at how much it is worth. We are talking PENNYS. Unless your house is so spectacular that every one with Google wants to access it and produce posters, T-Shirts, and coffe mugs with your house on it, I do not think you stand a chance.</p>
<p>Von Brandenburg-PreuÃŸen.
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		<title>By: bill quango mp</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/03/21/google-street-view-stroke-of-genius-or-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-8078</link>
		<dc:creator>bill quango mp</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 20:48:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Isn&#039;t it really to be used for Sat Nav. Isn&#039;t that the future commercial value once all the people are removed from the streets that a 3d view is going to be given of actual shops, schools, offices etc? 
 So if your house features on one frame of a multi million frame product what exactly are your financial entitlements and do you retain Visual Artists Rights?

Looks like another job for Patently.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;8078&#039;,&#039;bill quango mp&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;8078&#039;,&#039;bill quango mp&#039;,&#039;Isn\&#039;t it really to be used for Sat Nav. Isn\&#039;t that the future commercial value once all the people are removed from the streets that a 3d view is going to be given of actual shops, schools, offices etc? \r\n So if your house features on one frame of a multi million frame product what exactly are your financial entitlements and do you retain Visual Artists Rights?\r\n\r\nLooks like another job for Patently.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Isn&#8217;t it really to be used for Sat Nav. Isn&#8217;t that the future commercial value once all the people are removed from the streets that a 3d view is going to be given of actual shops, schools, offices etc?<br />
 So if your house features on one frame of a multi million frame product what exactly are your financial entitlements and do you retain Visual Artists Rights?</p>
<p>Looks like another job for Patently.
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		<title>By: dmc</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/03/21/google-street-view-stroke-of-genius-or-invasion-of-privacy/#comment-8071</link>
		<dc:creator>dmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:37:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Makes you wonder who to be more afraid of,stasi labour or stasi google,whats next on their agenda?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;8071&#039;,&#039;dmc&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;8071&#039;,&#039;dmc&#039;,&#039;Makes you wonder who to be more afraid of,stasi labour or stasi google,whats next on their agenda?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Makes you wonder who to be more afraid of,stasi labour or stasi google,whats next on their agenda?
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		<title>By: Tony E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 13:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As has been pointed out, this is not illegal until it is used for ill intent by the maker of the photograph.

It is however, distinctly un-British.

I don&#039;t know anybody who wants this or seems to think it is a good idea. It seems that the more technology we have the more we find perverse ways to corrupt it, almost as if we have to find something to do with it to justify the expense of its development.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;8070&#039;,&#039;Tony E&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;8070&#039;,&#039;Tony E&#039;,&#039;As has been pointed out, this is not illegal until it is used for ill intent by the maker of the photograph.\r\n\r\nIt is however, distinctly un-British.\r\n\r\nI don\&#039;t know anybody who wants this or seems to think it is a good idea. It seems that the more technology we have the more we find perverse ways to corrupt it, almost as if we have to find something to do with it to justify the expense of its development.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As has been pointed out, this is not illegal until it is used for ill intent by the maker of the photograph.</p>
<p>It is however, distinctly un-British.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anybody who wants this or seems to think it is a good idea. It seems that the more technology we have the more we find perverse ways to corrupt it, almost as if we have to find something to do with it to justify the expense of its development.
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is hard to judge. I guess most people&#039;s first thought is that it&#039;s a bit creepy. I can certainly see the value to burglars who can quickly case a street as a first pass recon. Also gives them unprecedented easy access to private back gardens which would also suggest levels of wealth and value of target. It also provides the ability to plan their escape. Of course the question is how many burglars are that meticulous? The data also isn&#039;t that current which may negate some of the advantages to nefarious use.

If anything it&#039;s a bit like a phone book in that you have the option to go X-directory. Freely available phone numbers aren&#039;t usually a problem but in some cases it can be. The problem is that unlike BT, many people will be unaware of Google Earth, what data is available and their right to request its removal.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;8066&#039;,&#039;Doug&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;8066&#039;,&#039;Doug&#039;,&#039;It is hard to judge. I guess most people\&#039;s first thought is that it\&#039;s a bit creepy. I can certainly see the value to burglars who can quickly case a street as a first pass recon. Also gives them unprecedented easy access to private back gardens which would also suggest levels of wealth and value of target. It also provides the ability to plan their escape. Of course the question is how many burglars are that meticulous? The data also isn\&#039;t that current which may negate some of the advantages to nefarious use.\r\n\r\nIf anything it\&#039;s a bit like a phone book in that you have the option to go X-directory. Freely available phone numbers aren\&#039;t usually a problem but in some cases it can be. The problem is that unlike BT, many people will be unaware of Google Earth, what data is available and their right to request its removal.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is hard to judge. I guess most people&#8217;s first thought is that it&#8217;s a bit creepy. I can certainly see the value to burglars who can quickly case a street as a first pass recon. Also gives them unprecedented easy access to private back gardens which would also suggest levels of wealth and value of target. It also provides the ability to plan their escape. Of course the question is how many burglars are that meticulous? The data also isn&#8217;t that current which may negate some of the advantages to nefarious use.</p>
<p>If anything it&#8217;s a bit like a phone book in that you have the option to go X-directory. Freely available phone numbers aren&#8217;t usually a problem but in some cases it can be. The problem is that unlike BT, many people will be unaware of Google Earth, what data is available and their right to request its removal.
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		<title>By: dmc</title>
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		<dc:creator>dmc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 12:38:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it is wrong and this is going to cause no amount of trouble in peoples personal lives,let alone a gross invasion of privacy.Then of course the police and goverment will get into it somehow.How soon before councils have a room of screens watching for littering,overfilled bins etc.Did you know google already records every word you type for its search engine.It used to be a good company,not any more.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;8065&#039;,&#039;dmc&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;8065&#039;,&#039;dmc&#039;,&#039;I think it is wrong and this is going to cause no amount of trouble in peoples personal lives,let alone a gross invasion of privacy.Then of course the police and goverment will get into it somehow.How soon before councils have a room of screens watching for littering,overfilled bins etc.Did you know google already records every word you type for its search engine.It used to be a good company,not any more.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it is wrong and this is going to cause no amount of trouble in peoples personal lives,let alone a gross invasion of privacy.Then of course the police and goverment will get into it somehow.How soon before councils have a room of screens watching for littering,overfilled bins etc.Did you know google already records every word you type for its search engine.It used to be a good company,not any more.
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		<title>By: Plato</title>
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		<dc:creator>Plato</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well at least he knew how to steal roofing lead efficiently!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;8064&#039;,&#039;Plato&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;8064&#039;,&#039;Plato&#039;,&#039;Well at least he knew how to steal roofing lead efficiently!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well at least he knew how to steal roofing lead efficiently!
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		<title>By: JuliaM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JuliaM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 11:19:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;I will watch with interest for the upcoming cases where it can be claimed Google photoâ€™s provided instrumental help in commiting a crime though.&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Already happened, even before the new &#8216;Street View&#8217;:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/4202131.No_jail_for_Google_Earth_lead_thief/" rel="nofollow">http://www.croydonguardian.co.uk/news/4202131.No_jail_for_Google_Earth_lead_thief/</a>
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		<title>By: Von Spreuth</title>
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		<dc:creator>Von Spreuth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Mar 2009 10:23:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Obsidian<br />
March 21st, 2009 at 10:15 am </p>
<p>Google needs to take care not to publish images of people, or at least pay them for use of their image. Same with private property.</i></p>
<p>No.</p>
<p>You do not own the copyright on your image, nor on any other image unless YOU have produced it. Google are the ones that can sdemand payment if you want a copy of the photo THEY took of YOUR house.</p>
<p>Von Brandenburg-PreuÃŸen.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('8059','Von Spreuth'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a>   &#8211;  <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('8059','Von Spreuth','&lt;i&gt;Obsidian\r\nMarch 21st, 2009 at 10:15 am \r\n\r\nGoogle needs to take care not to publish images of people, or at least pay them for use of their image. Same with private property.&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nNo.\r\n\r\nYou do not own the copyright on your image, nor on any other image unless YOU have produced it. Google are the ones that can sdemand payment if you want a copy of the photo THEY took of YOUR house.\r\n\r\nVon Brandenburg-Preu&Atilde;Ÿen.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div>
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