Comments on: Yet again, our membership of the EU costs businesses dearly http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/ Daily views on British politics and the Conservative Party from a centre-right thinker who writes letters on his blog to politicians, journalists and many others. Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:37:35 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: UK Voter http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6232 UK Voter Mon, 26 Jan 2009 18:24:47 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6232 With so few people in government that have actually managed a business it is not surprising that they fail to grasp the consequences of their decisions. With so few people in government that have actually managed a business it is not surprising that they fail to grasp the consequences of their decisions.

]]> By: LFAT http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6167 LFAT Thu, 22 Jan 2009 18:41:36 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6167 I can believe that. The loan situation must be making life very difficult for business owners and small companies, as always, get a particularly raw deal. I can believe that. The loan situation must be making life very difficult for business owners and small companies, as always, get a particularly raw deal.

]]> By: ladytizzy http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6166 ladytizzy Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:46:57 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6166 Thanks. I was having quite a good day before reading that. As a micro business owner, with less than 5 employees, it's been bad enough trying to cram their work in between their holiday entitlement (another 4 days from April) and sickies. Still waiting to see any of the promised help from this government. It's got a whole lot worse since I can't even sell the place because no-one can get a loan to buy it. Thanks. I was having quite a good day before reading that. As a micro business owner, with less than 5 employees, it’s been bad enough trying to cram their work in between their holiday entitlement (another 4 days from April) and sickies.

Still waiting to see any of the promised help from this government. It’s got a whole lot worse since I can’t even sell the place because no-one can get a loan to buy it.

]]> By: Dick Puddlecote http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6144 Dick Puddlecote Thu, 22 Jan 2009 00:49:38 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6144 Quite brilliant LFAT, especially this: "I was under the impression that employees accrued leave because their work justified giving them time off as a form of reward for their endeavours." I like a lot of what makes Ken ... Ken, but his Euro fanaticism is a real worry. I hope that the European Court decision might raise his eyebrows a little. Quite brilliant LFAT, especially this:

“I was under the impression that employees accrued leave because their work justified giving them time off as a form of reward for their endeavours.”

I like a lot of what makes Ken … Ken, but his Euro fanaticism is a real worry. I hope that the European Court decision might raise his eyebrows a little.

]]> By: Shaun Pilkington http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6143 Shaun Pilkington Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:21:43 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6143 I suppose it comes down to what you want from people. If its slavish adherence to a prevailing eurosceptic philosophy. then its one dimensional and slightly facistic to say that if they don't despise the EU and all its works then they aren't a proper Tory. Tories existed before the EU and will, I'm sure, exist long after it. If you're head explodes at the merest mention of the EU or the slightest hint or suggestion that it is not the Devil's Work then you need to be in UKIP. If, on the other hand, you are confident enough of your argument (not of it winning a biased audience!) and can brook dissent then what's the problem? Aside from poking a finger in the wound of euroscepticism, can it really be denied that old Ken brings experience and blokiness to a pretty privileged, somewhat callow-looking frontbench team? I suppose it comes down to what you want from people. If its slavish adherence to a prevailing eurosceptic philosophy. then its one dimensional and slightly facistic to say that if they don’t despise the EU and all its works then they aren’t a proper Tory. Tories existed before the EU and will, I’m sure, exist long after it. If you’re head explodes at the merest mention of the EU or the slightest hint or suggestion that it is not the Devil’s Work then you need to be in UKIP.

If, on the other hand, you are confident enough of your argument (not of it winning a biased audience!) and can brook dissent then what’s the problem? Aside from poking a finger in the wound of euroscepticism, can it really be denied that old Ken brings experience and blokiness to a pretty privileged, somewhat callow-looking frontbench team?

]]> By: newmania http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6141 newmania Wed, 21 Jan 2009 18:15:09 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6141 I find it hard to believe KC has not changed his view of the EU one iota . Years ago I was very keen on something called the Common Market and even now actually leaving is a bit ..well unconservative for my taste . Not to be dismayed by what this beast has become though , I cannot belive he is that blind . Its possible to be trapped by your past argumemnts and pride my fathr an old Clarke style Conservatuve clings onto his Euro -Tory ideas but it gets awfully hard I find it hard to believe KC has not changed his view of the EU one iota . Years ago I was very keen on something called the Common Market and even now actually leaving is a bit ..well
unconservative for my taste . Not to be dismayed by what this beast has become though , I cannot belive he is that blind .
Its possible to be trapped by your past argumemnts and pride my fathr an old Clarke style Conservatuve clings onto his Euro -Tory ideas but it gets awfully hard

]]> By: Shaun Pilkington http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6140 Shaun Pilkington Wed, 21 Jan 2009 16:30:20 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6140 <em>I don’t normally miss a chance to have a dig at Mandelson, but when he decided to postpone new working rights I had some sympathy for him.</em> But knowing how greedy and self-interested this lot are, are you sure Mandy didn't axe the plans as he realised he's already menopausal and thus unable to make use of pat/maternity leave? I don’t normally miss a chance to have a dig at Mandelson, but when he decided to postpone new working rights I had some sympathy for him.

But knowing how greedy and self-interested this lot are, are you sure Mandy didn’t axe the plans as he realised he’s already menopausal and thus unable to make use of pat/maternity leave?

]]> By: LFAT http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6138 LFAT Wed, 21 Jan 2009 15:38:20 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6138 I don't normally miss a chance to have a dig at Mandelson, but when he decided to postpone new working rights I had some sympathy for him. Much as the unions may gasp with horror as this attitude, if it's acceptable to nationalise banks and almost bankrupt this country with multi-billion pound bailouts, I think giving employers a bit of a break from punitive employment law is within the bounds of acceptability. I don’t normally miss a chance to have a dig at Mandelson, but when he decided to postpone new working rights I had some sympathy for him.

Much as the unions may gasp with horror as this attitude, if it’s acceptable to nationalise banks and almost bankrupt this country with multi-billion pound bailouts, I think giving employers a bit of a break from punitive employment law is within the bounds of acceptability.

]]> By: Bill Quango MP http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6136 Bill Quango MP Wed, 21 Jan 2009 13:19:16 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6136 The problem is the decision is absolubtely right in law. No contract says that your holiday will be stopped if you are ill for a period of X. The same as a promised bonus would be paid, or commission on sales. As you and Mr Pilkington rightly point out everything should be up for discussion. The problem is the decision is absolubtely right in law.
No contract says that your holiday will be stopped if you are ill for a period of X. The same as a promised bonus would be paid, or commission on sales.

As you and Mr Pilkington rightly point out everything should be up for discussion.

]]> By: LFAT http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2009/01/21/yet-again-our-membership-of-the-eu-costs-businesses-dearly/#comment-6135 LFAT Wed, 21 Jan 2009 11:06:11 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1945#comment-6135 Everything certainly is on the table and I cannot believe that letting the EU make businesses both large and small jump through these sorts of hoops at a time like this is the right thing to do. The issue of sick leave is by no means irrelevant, but it is not quite as urgent as dealing with the collapse of our banking system and economy. Mark, you're absolutely right. It's a gift. Everything certainly is on the table and I cannot believe that letting the EU make businesses both large and small jump through these sorts of hoops at a time like this is the right thing to do.

The issue of sick leave is by no means irrelevant, but it is not quite as urgent as dealing with the collapse of our banking system and economy.

Mark, you’re absolutely right. It’s a gift.

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