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		<title>By: patently</title>
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		<dc:creator>patently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 23:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>were there a God you’d expect a few demonstrable proofs of his existence to be lying around</i></p>
<p>Yes, I thought that might soon be pointed out.  On that basis, quantum theory and relativity were disprovable until about 1880, as science had no means of detecting any evidence of their existence.  </p>
<p>All scientific laws are either probably wrong or definitely wrong.  We hold to them because they explain the things we understand so far, and because they are useful approximations to reality that allow us to progress.  So if you hold up science as an unchallengable absolute, you fall into the same trap as does a religious extremist.</p>
<p><i>“non-overlapping magisteria”</i></p>
<p>Yes, an argument considered long before Dawkins&#8217; works in the form of the &#8220;God of the Gaps&#8221; approach to religion.</p>
<p>As ever, attaching a label to an argument enables one to oversimplify it and dismiss it.  I would resist an argument which said that scientists could never wonder whether there was (or was not) a God and that theologians could only ever consider the choreographic possibilities of pinheads.  The truth lies somewhere between; that the tools and approaches of science have been developed in order to answer a specific type of question.  Likewise for theology.  Given that the nature of the tools differ, the result of using them to answer other sorts of questions will inevitably differ.  So, if someone believes that his tools are perfect and applicable to all questions, he will conclude that the other tools are useless.  But the problem may not be with the tools as such, but with the manner of their use.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('5829','patently'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a>   &#8211;  <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('5829','patently','&lt;i&gt;were there a God you&acirc;d expect a few demonstrable proofs of his existence to be lying around&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nYes, I thought that might soon be pointed out.  On that basis, quantum theory and relativity were disprovable until about 1880, as science had no means of detecting any evidence of their existence.  \r\n\r\nAll scientific laws are either probably wrong or definitely wrong.  We hold to them because they explain the things we understand so far, and because they are useful approximations to reality that allow us to progress.  So if you hold up science as an unchallengable absolute, you fall into the same trap as does a religious extremist.\r\n\r\n&lt;i&gt;&acirc;non-overlapping magisteria&acirc;&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nYes, an argument considered long before Dawkins\' works in the form of the \&quot;God of the Gaps\&quot; approach to religion.\r\n\r\nAs ever, attaching a label to an argument enables one to oversimplify it and dismiss it.  I would resist an argument which said that scientists could never wonder whether there was (or was not) a God and that theologians could only ever consider the choreographic possibilities of pinheads.  The truth lies somewhere between; that the tools and approaches of science have been developed in order to answer a specific type of question.  Likewise for theology.  Given that the nature of the tools differ, the result of using them to answer other sorts of questions will inevitably differ.  So, if someone believes that his tools are perfect and applicable to all questions, he will conclude that the other tools are useless.  But the problem may not be with the tools as such, but with the manner of their use.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: asquith</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 18:30:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am looking forward to the new Richard Dawkins book: he is really nothing like the stereotype some have of him, as a thorough reading of his work will reveal.

Patently, you seem to have fallen into what Dawkins calls &quot;non-overlapping magisteria&quot;, which is an argument along the lines of &quot;let science be science &amp; God be God&quot;. Seems attractive at first, but surely supernatural claims should be questioned &amp; challenged as others are. 

They also make claims about the physical world, such as in creationism, &amp; this is where the argument side comes in. It isn&#039;t right to fence some things off &amp; say they should be left to theologians.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5823&#039;,&#039;asquith&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5823&#039;,&#039;asquith&#039;,&#039;I am looking forward to the new Richard Dawkins book: he is really nothing like the stereotype some have of him, as a thorough reading of his work will reveal.\r\n\r\nPatently, you seem to have fallen into what Dawkins calls \&quot;non-overlapping magisteria\&quot;, which is an argument along the lines of \&quot;let science be science &amp; God be God\&quot;. Seems attractive at first, but surely supernatural claims should be questioned &amp; challenged as others are. \r\n\r\nThey also make claims about the physical world, such as in creationism, &amp; this is where the argument side comes in. It isn\&#039;t right to fence some things off &amp; say they should be left to theologians.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am looking forward to the new Richard Dawkins book: he is really nothing like the stereotype some have of him, as a thorough reading of his work will reveal.</p>
<p>Patently, you seem to have fallen into what Dawkins calls &#8220;non-overlapping magisteria&#8221;, which is an argument along the lines of &#8220;let science be science &amp; God be God&#8221;. Seems attractive at first, but surely supernatural claims should be questioned &amp; challenged as others are. </p>
<p>They also make claims about the physical world, such as in creationism, &amp; this is where the argument side comes in. It isn&#8217;t right to fence some things off &amp; say they should be left to theologians.
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		<title>By: Shaun Pilkington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Pilkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem, I would guess, is that by postulating the existence of a God you are making certain assertions about physical laws that just aren&#039;t borne out by our best methods of examining those laws. As we all know, its very difficult to prove a negative but were there a God you&#039;d expect a few demonstrable proofs of his existence to be lying around. Instead, what you have is EVERY SINGLE ONE of his believer&#039;s assertions about the physical world disproved by the scientific method. 6 day creation? Nope. Noah&#039;s Ark? Hmm let&#039;s compute the space and conclude it was either bullsh*t or Noah&#039;s Tardis. Sexuality? Lets not go there (I think my dog is gay!).

So within those parameters, I&#039;m quite happy (and enjoy) speaking to theologians about how they interpret their stories but I have to object when they make assertions about measurable reality based upon demonstrably false claims in those tales.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5821&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5821&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;,&#039;The problem, I would guess, is that by postulating the existence of a God you are making certain assertions about physical laws that just aren\&#039;t borne out by our best methods of examining those laws. As we all know, its very difficult to prove a negative but were there a God you\&#039;d expect a few demonstrable proofs of his existence to be lying around. Instead, what you have is EVERY SINGLE ONE of his believer\&#039;s assertions about the physical world disproved by the scientific method. 6 day creation? Nope. Noah\&#039;s Ark? Hmm let\&#039;s compute the space and conclude it was either bullsh*t or Noah\&#039;s Tardis. Sexuality? Lets not go there (I think my dog is gay!).\r\n\r\nSo within those parameters, I\&#039;m quite happy (and enjoy) speaking to theologians about how they interpret their stories but I have to object when they make assertions about measurable reality based upon demonstrably false claims in those tales.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem, I would guess, is that by postulating the existence of a God you are making certain assertions about physical laws that just aren&#8217;t borne out by our best methods of examining those laws. As we all know, its very difficult to prove a negative but were there a God you&#8217;d expect a few demonstrable proofs of his existence to be lying around. Instead, what you have is EVERY SINGLE ONE of his believer&#8217;s assertions about the physical world disproved by the scientific method. 6 day creation? Nope. Noah&#8217;s Ark? Hmm let&#8217;s compute the space and conclude it was either bullsh*t or Noah&#8217;s Tardis. Sexuality? Lets not go there (I think my dog is gay!).</p>
<p>So within those parameters, I&#8217;m quite happy (and enjoy) speaking to theologians about how they interpret their stories but I have to object when they make assertions about measurable reality based upon demonstrably false claims in those tales.
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		<title>By: patently</title>
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		<dc:creator>patently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 17:11:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Logically, it is not valid to conclude that the absence of evidence is evidence of absence.  

Dawkin&#039;s use of this premise is valid for the purposes of scientific research, but not otherwise.  It is why I would not rely on him as a theologian any more than I would rely on him as (say) a lawyer or a politician.  The problem lies in Dawkin&#039;s insistence on using an exclusively scientific frame of mind to approach non-scientific issues.  You criticise (as I would) theologians who use an exclusively theological frame of mind to approach scientific issues; Dawkins is making the same mistake.

So if a theologian told me that God literally made the world in 6 days, I&#039;d regard him as a blinkered extremist and pay him no more attention than I pay Dawkins.  There is a middle ground in which scientists can enquire how things happen and theologians can discuss why, and in which they will (sometimes) be the same person.  

PS - My background is science with (secular) philosophy, not theology. :-)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5820&#039;,&#039;patently&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5820&#039;,&#039;patently&#039;,&#039;Logically, it is not valid to conclude that the absence of evidence is evidence of absence.  \r\n\r\nDawkin\&#039;s use of this premise is valid for the purposes of scientific research, but not otherwise.  It is why I would not rely on him as a theologian any more than I would rely on him as (say) a lawyer or a politician.  The problem lies in Dawkin\&#039;s insistence on using an exclusively scientific frame of mind to approach non-scientific issues.  You criticise (as I would) theologians who use an exclusively theological frame of mind to approach scientific issues; Dawkins is making the same mistake.\r\n\r\nSo if a theologian told me that God literally made the world in 6 days, I\&#039;d regard him as a blinkered extremist and pay him no more attention than I pay Dawkins.  There is a middle ground in which scientists can enquire how things happen and theologians can discuss why, and in which they will (sometimes) be the same person.  \r\n\r\nPS - My background is science with (secular) philosophy, not theology. :-)&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Logically, it is not valid to conclude that the absence of evidence is evidence of absence.  </p>
<p>Dawkin&#8217;s use of this premise is valid for the purposes of scientific research, but not otherwise.  It is why I would not rely on him as a theologian any more than I would rely on him as (say) a lawyer or a politician.  The problem lies in Dawkin&#8217;s insistence on using an exclusively scientific frame of mind to approach non-scientific issues.  You criticise (as I would) theologians who use an exclusively theological frame of mind to approach scientific issues; Dawkins is making the same mistake.</p>
<p>So if a theologian told me that God literally made the world in 6 days, I&#8217;d regard him as a blinkered extremist and pay him no more attention than I pay Dawkins.  There is a middle ground in which scientists can enquire how things happen and theologians can discuss why, and in which they will (sometimes) be the same person.  </p>
<p>PS &#8211; My background is science with (secular) philosophy, not theology. <img src='http://www.lettersfromatory.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />
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		<title>By: Shaun Pilkington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Pilkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s missing the point and miring the debate in meaningless humanities driven relativism.  Dawkin&#039;s starting point, as a scientist, is that unless there&#039;s evidence FOR something, you can&#039;t really say that its true. Ergo his argument that there is no evidence for the existence of God is a valid scientific assertion. God, Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Death - no evidence for any of these fellas.

Theologians are fine until they start making pronouncements about the natural world based on their fairy stories (God made the world in 6 days, God said heterosexuality is the only natural way and so on)...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5817&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5817&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;,&#039;That\&#039;s missing the point and miring the debate in meaningless humanities driven relativism.  Dawkin\&#039;s starting point, as a scientist, is that unless there\&#039;s evidence FOR something, you can\&#039;t really say that its true. Ergo his argument that there is no evidence for the existence of God is a valid scientific assertion. God, Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Death - no evidence for any of these fellas.\r\n\r\nTheologians are fine until they start making pronouncements about the natural world based on their fairy stories (God made the world in 6 days, God said heterosexuality is the only natural way and so on)...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s missing the point and miring the debate in meaningless humanities driven relativism.  Dawkin&#8217;s starting point, as a scientist, is that unless there&#8217;s evidence FOR something, you can&#8217;t really say that its true. Ergo his argument that there is no evidence for the existence of God is a valid scientific assertion. God, Santa, the Tooth Fairy and Death &#8211; no evidence for any of these fellas.</p>
<p>Theologians are fine until they start making pronouncements about the natural world based on their fairy stories (God made the world in 6 days, God said heterosexuality is the only natural way and so on)&#8230;
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		<title>By: patently</title>
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		<dc:creator>patently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stu - our posts crossed.  

Dawkins is probably more expert than I in explaining the &lt;i&gt;how&lt;/i&gt; questions of life, but is just one of the many trying to explain the &lt;i&gt;why&lt;/i&gt;...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5816&#039;,&#039;patently&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5816&#039;,&#039;patently&#039;,&#039;Stu - our posts crossed.  \r\n\r\nDawkins is probably more expert than I in explaining the &lt;i&gt;how&lt;\/i&gt; questions of life, but is just one of the many trying to explain the &lt;i&gt;why&lt;\/i&gt;...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stu &#8211; our posts crossed.  </p>
<p>Dawkins is probably more expert than I in explaining the <i>how</i> questions of life, but is just one of the many trying to explain the <i>why</i>&#8230;
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		<title>By: patently</title>
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		<dc:creator>patently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:30:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shaun ..... Quite.  Which means that Dawkin&#039;s argument for the non-existence of God is, to a theologian, no more persuasive that that of Douglas Adams.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5815&#039;,&#039;patently&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5815&#039;,&#039;patently&#039;,&#039;Shaun ..... Quite.  Which means that Dawkin\&#039;s argument for the non-existence of God is, to a theologian, no more persuasive that that of Douglas Adams.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shaun &#8230;.. Quite.  Which means that Dawkin&#8217;s argument for the non-existence of God is, to a theologian, no more persuasive that that of Douglas Adams.
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		<title>By: Stu</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:30:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Perhaps he&#039;s an &lt;em&gt;executive&lt;/em&gt; transvestite - not some &lt;em&gt;weirdo&lt;/em&gt; transvestite...

Anyway, &lt;em&gt;The God Delusion&lt;/em&gt; is, in some ways, a natural progression from Dawkins&#039; earlier more science based work (&lt;em&gt;The Blind Watchmaker, Unweaving the Rainbow,&lt;/em&gt; etc). I do agree with you, patently, that he is &lt;em&gt;better&lt;/em&gt; at writing about zooology, and that his philosophical viewpoints at times more arrogant than is necessary, but I still think he is in a better position than most to explain the &lt;em&gt;likelihood&lt;/em&gt; of the existence of God, since his particular field is rather instrumental in explaining the origins of life on Earth.

Of course, I happen to agree with his point of view, which helps.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5814&#039;,&#039;Stu&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5814&#039;,&#039;Stu&#039;,&#039;Perhaps he\&#039;s an &lt;em&gt;executive&lt;\/em&gt; transvestite - not some &lt;em&gt;weirdo&lt;\/em&gt; transvestite...\r\n\r\nAnyway, &lt;em&gt;The God Delusion&lt;\/em&gt; is, in some ways, a natural progression from Dawkins\&#039; earlier more science based work (&lt;em&gt;The Blind Watchmaker, Unweaving the Rainbow,&lt;\/em&gt; etc). I do agree with you, patently, that he is &lt;em&gt;better&lt;\/em&gt; at writing about zooology, and that his philosophical viewpoints at times more arrogant than is necessary, but I still think he is in a better position than most to explain the &lt;em&gt;likelihood&lt;\/em&gt; of the existence of God, since his particular field is rather instrumental in explaining the origins of life on Earth.\r\n\r\nOf course, I happen to agree with his point of view, which helps.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Perhaps he&#8217;s an <em>executive</em> transvestite &#8211; not some <em>weirdo</em> transvestite&#8230;</p>
<p>Anyway, <em>The God Delusion</em> is, in some ways, a natural progression from Dawkins&#8217; earlier more science based work (<em>The Blind Watchmaker, Unweaving the Rainbow,</em> etc). I do agree with you, patently, that he is <em>better</em> at writing about zooology, and that his philosophical viewpoints at times more arrogant than is necessary, but I still think he is in a better position than most to explain the <em>likelihood</em> of the existence of God, since his particular field is rather instrumental in explaining the origins of life on Earth.</p>
<p>Of course, I happen to agree with his point of view, which helps.
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		<title>By: Madeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Madeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And very fetching it is too.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5812&#039;,&#039;Madeley&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5812&#039;,&#039;Madeley&#039;,&#039;And very fetching it is too.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And very fetching it is too.
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		<title>By: LFAT</title>
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		<dc:creator>LFAT</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jan 2009 15:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve heard Madeley wears a dress.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;5809&#039;,&#039;LFAT&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;5809&#039;,&#039;LFAT&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;ve heard Madeley wears a dress.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard Madeley wears a dress.
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