Comments on: Dealing with illegal file-sharing is not as simple as it sounds http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/ Daily views on British politics and the Conservative Party from a centre-right thinker who writes letters on his blog to politicians, journalists and many others. Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:37:35 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Daniel Cassidy http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5324 Daniel Cassidy Thu, 18 Dec 2008 11:40:42 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5324 James: Sweden. James: Sweden.

]]> By: James http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5316 James Thu, 18 Dec 2008 06:35:36 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5316 Difficulty being: most of the torrent hosters are in a country where their legal position is sound. The most notorious/cherished example being The Pirate's Bay, which is based in Denmark and thus not committing any crime. Difficulty being: most of the torrent hosters are in a country where their legal position is sound. The most notorious/cherished example being The Pirate’s Bay, which is based in Denmark and thus not committing any crime.

]]> By: Shaun Pilkington http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5305 Shaun Pilkington Wed, 17 Dec 2008 16:54:39 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5305 As I said, this is a momentary argument in the big scheme of things, as we move from paying directly for content (movies) and advertisers/product placers/sponsors paying for content, possibly with view subscription subsidy (TV) to a model where product placement and deep links from content to retail become the norm. Think of it as cinemas sacking pianists when Talkies overtook silent films. As I said, this is a momentary argument in the big scheme of things, as we move from paying directly for content (movies) and advertisers/product placers/sponsors paying for content, possibly with view subscription subsidy (TV) to a model where product placement and deep links from content to retail become the norm. Think of it as cinemas sacking pianists when Talkies overtook silent films.

]]> By: Don’t Fight Piracy, Embrace It. | Sharpe's Opinion http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5303 Don’t Fight Piracy, Embrace It. | Sharpe's Opinion Wed, 17 Dec 2008 15:43:25 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5303 [...] Update: Forgot to mention – Inspiration: LFaT [...] [...] Update: Forgot to mention – Inspiration: LFaT [...]

]]> By: jameshigham http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5282 jameshigham Tue, 16 Dec 2008 22:54:12 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5282 ISPs are the main chance. All the rest is just flim flam. ISPs are the main chance. All the rest is just flim flam.

]]> By: Daniel Cassidy http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5279 Daniel Cassidy Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:55:31 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5279 I think I can live with crippling TV, radio and film production. At worst, all of these things will continue to be produced by amateurs, and there is more existing material than any one person could ever hope to watch or listen to. The UK, along with a handful of other countries, seems to be absolutely intent on creating an economy that rests entirely on the production of intangible goods. This model has already collapsed for financial services and it will soon collapse for intellectual property. I think I can live with crippling TV, radio and film production. At worst, all of these things will continue to be produced by amateurs, and there is more existing material than any one person could ever hope to watch or listen to.

The UK, along with a handful of other countries, seems to be absolutely intent on creating an economy that rests entirely on the production of intangible goods. This model has already collapsed for financial services and it will soon collapse for intellectual property.

]]> By: me http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5278 me Tue, 16 Dec 2008 15:55:07 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5278 LFAT. Calm down and look at the entire picture. TV. Viewing hours per week are falling like a lead balloon. Personally, my viewing is max 3 hours per week. News? I get it from a variety of RS feeds from around the globe, - gives a better international perspective. WHY? Because the coverage, by al-beeb, or any of the other UK channels is tainted, politicised and parochial. And increasingly parochial as the MSM forces its coverage into the regional mindset of the upcoming EUSSR dictated regions. Yes, other coverage may be equally so, that's why I strive for balance. I am not alone by any means. The more the UK channels dumb down their content, the more I resort to the internet for content. Sad really, but given the resources thrown at al-beeb, they are a totally despicable product of a totally despicable mindset. Investigative journalism, what the hell is that? The things you want to outlaw? Natural evolution resulting from the **** currently available. You want to cure it? Yours is NOT the answer! LFAT.
Calm down and look at the entire picture.

TV.
Viewing hours per week are falling like a lead balloon.
Personally, my viewing is max 3 hours per week.
News?
I get it from a variety of RS feeds from around the globe, – gives a better international perspective.

WHY?
Because the coverage, by al-beeb, or any of the other UK channels is tainted, politicised and parochial. And increasingly parochial as the MSM forces its coverage into the regional mindset of the upcoming EUSSR dictated regions.
Yes, other coverage may be equally so, that’s why I strive for balance.

I am not alone by any means.
The more the UK channels dumb down their content, the more I resort to the internet for content.
Sad really, but given the resources thrown at al-beeb, they are a totally despicable product of a totally despicable mindset.
Investigative journalism, what the hell is that?

The things you want to outlaw?
Natural evolution resulting from the **** currently available.
You want to cure it?
Yours is NOT the answer!

]]> By: Shaun Pilkington http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5277 Shaun Pilkington Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:50:50 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5277 This is, ultimately, an interim argument while the Advertising industry adjusts to new technologies - its advertising wot pays for programmes, after all. Tivo/Sky + has done more damage than net 'piracy' as they are easily purchasable boxes that allow you to skip through the ads. The move is on to embed adverts into programmes; the retrograde end is dumb-old product-placement, the more sophisticated allows any flat surface depicted on a film/tv show to display an inserted advert and the ultimate goal (for now) is for you to watch a show on your PC or TV and be able to say "Hmm, I like the jacket that guy is wearing", click on it and be shown retail options for you to buy it. Or better yet, have an amazon-style one-click order system attached to it (for those crazy kids dumb enough to leave copies of the Credit Cards lying around on 3rd party systems!). This sort of thing will shift the paradigm; suddenly piracy (AKA free mass distribution) is good but tampering with the commercial links will be bad. The majority of pirates just want to distribute the material, not arse about trying to ammend it to squeeze out some very traceable money. This is, ultimately, an interim argument while the Advertising industry adjusts to new technologies – its advertising wot pays for programmes, after all. Tivo/Sky + has done more damage than net ‘piracy’ as they are easily purchasable boxes that allow you to skip through the ads. The move is on to embed adverts into programmes; the retrograde end is dumb-old product-placement, the more sophisticated allows any flat surface depicted on a film/tv show to display an inserted advert and the ultimate goal (for now) is for you to watch a show on your PC or TV and be able to say “Hmm, I like the jacket that guy is wearing”, click on it and be shown retail options for you to buy it. Or better yet, have an amazon-style one-click order system attached to it (for those crazy kids dumb enough to leave copies of the Credit Cards lying around on 3rd party systems!). This sort of thing will shift the paradigm; suddenly piracy (AKA free mass distribution) is good but tampering with the commercial links will be bad. The majority of pirates just want to distribute the material, not arse about trying to ammend it to squeeze out some very traceable money.

]]> By: LFAT http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5276 LFAT Tue, 16 Dec 2008 14:15:24 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5276 Fair point about the enormous of files being shared, but my point in the letter was that if revenue streams dry up for production companies then society is going to suffer a heavy penalty. Distributing the license fee won't help stop the rot - it will only prolong the survival of these companies for a few months. There are far worse crimes than file sharing but that doesn't mean it can't have a crippling impact on the TV, radio and film production. Fair point about the enormous of files being shared, but my point in the letter was that if revenue streams dry up for production companies then society is going to suffer a heavy penalty.

Distributing the license fee won’t help stop the rot – it will only prolong the survival of these companies for a few months. There are far worse crimes than file sharing but that doesn’t mean it can’t have a crippling impact on the TV, radio and film production.

]]> By: Daniel Cassidy http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/12/16/dealing-with-illegal-file-sharing-is-not-as-simple-as-it-sounds/#comment-5275 Daniel Cassidy Tue, 16 Dec 2008 12:47:15 +0000 http://www.lettersfromatory.com/?p=1657#comment-5275 I'm fairly sure it's a lot more than six million, depending on how you define 'regular'. But even if it is only six million, that's 10% of the British population, which is a huge proportion to be breaking any one law on a regular basis. When six million people regularly break the law, does that not tend to suggest that the law is an ass? I’m fairly sure it’s a lot more than six million, depending on how you define ‘regular’. But even if it is only six million, that’s 10% of the British population, which is a huge proportion to be breaking any one law on a regular basis.

When six million people regularly break the law, does that not tend to suggest that the law is an ass?

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