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		<title>By: Jean Baker</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/11/03/more-confidential-data-lost-but-no-sign-of-id-cards-being-scrapped/#comment-4286</link>
		<dc:creator>Jean Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Nov 2008 17:29:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sectors affected - the forces and taxpayers are hugely disgrunted voters.   I  believe State owned encrypted data is media disinformation.  The European Council has raised concerns about Nulabor&#039;s postal voting system - corruption of which is &#039;child&#039;s play&#039;.     Can the &#039;missing&#039; ID&#039;s be used to negate the postal votes of Opposition supporters  ?    It&#039;s the way corrupt Nulabor thinks and operates in it&#039;s march to State control.   &#039;Child&#039;s play&#039; to media spinmasters - lead the public to believe an &#039;amateur&#039; ID thief dropped &#039;is &#039;swag&#039; in a pub car park.    What a farce ......  Nulabor - spivs and charlatans.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4286&#039;,&#039;Jean Baker&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4286&#039;,&#039;Jean Baker&#039;,&#039;Sectors affected - the forces and taxpayers are hugely disgrunted voters.   I  believe State owned encrypted data is media disinformation.  The European Council has raised concerns about Nulabor\&#039;s postal voting system - corruption of which is \&#039;child\&#039;s play\&#039;.     Can the \&#039;missing\&#039; ID\&#039;s be used to negate the postal votes of Opposition supporters  ?    It\&#039;s the way corrupt Nulabor thinks and operates in it\&#039;s march to State control.   \&#039;Child\&#039;s play\&#039; to media spinmasters - lead the public to believe an \&#039;amateur\&#039; ID thief dropped \&#039;is \&#039;swag\&#039; in a pub car park.    What a farce ......  Nulabor - spivs and charlatans.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sectors affected &#8211; the forces and taxpayers are hugely disgrunted voters.   I  believe State owned encrypted data is media disinformation.  The European Council has raised concerns about Nulabor&#8217;s postal voting system &#8211; corruption of which is &#8216;child&#8217;s play&#8217;.     Can the &#8216;missing&#8217; ID&#8217;s be used to negate the postal votes of Opposition supporters  ?    It&#8217;s the way corrupt Nulabor thinks and operates in it&#8217;s march to State control.   &#8216;Child&#8217;s play&#8217; to media spinmasters &#8211; lead the public to believe an &#8216;amateur&#8217; ID thief dropped &#8216;is &#8217;swag&#8217; in a pub car park.    What a farce &#8230;&#8230;  Nulabor &#8211; spivs and charlatans.
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		<title>By: patently</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/11/03/more-confidential-data-lost-but-no-sign-of-id-cards-being-scrapped/#comment-4285</link>
		<dc:creator>patently</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 21:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have to hand it to them.  It&#039;s a cunning plane.  Keep up a steady flow of &quot;little&quot; data lapses (25 million here, 100,000 there...) so that we regard it as normal, THEN hit us with the ID card database....&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4285&#039;,&#039;patently&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4285&#039;,&#039;patently&#039;,&#039;You have to hand it to them.  It\&#039;s a cunning plane.  Keep up a steady flow of \&quot;little\&quot; data lapses (25 million here, 100,000 there...) so that we regard it as normal, THEN hit us with the ID card database....&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have to hand it to them.  It&#8217;s a cunning plane.  Keep up a steady flow of &#8220;little&#8221; data lapses (25 million here, 100,000 there&#8230;) so that we regard it as normal, THEN hit us with the ID card database&#8230;.
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		<title>By: Shaun Pilkington</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/11/03/more-confidential-data-lost-but-no-sign-of-id-cards-being-scrapped/#comment-4284</link>
		<dc:creator>Shaun Pilkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 18:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While the government is clearly to blame in its attempts to create a system of Total Information Awareness, they are only getting away with it because people have no idea, or at best a very poor idea, of what data is or how it can be used.

I mean look at really basic things like Amazon or Tesco or any number of other online retailers. In order to speed up the shopping process and make it easier for you to give them your money, they will store you card number for you to enable &#039;1 click ordering&#039;.  Sound great, right? Wrong. Very, very wrong.

What you are doing may make your life easier but you are actually creating a chargeable clone of your card and entrusting it to someone else to keep safe for you.  When you hear about TKMax or similar getting hacked, it ought to make you query if you really want to leave such a clone lying around out of your control. That it doesn&#039;t is a symptom of the fact that people have no idea of the power of information, how it can be used or how it can be abused.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4284&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4284&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;,&#039;While the government is clearly to blame in its attempts to create a system of Total Information Awareness, they are only getting away with it because people have no idea, or at best a very poor idea, of what data is or how it can be used.\n\nI mean look at really basic things like Amazon or Tesco or any number of other online retailers. In order to speed up the shopping process and make it easier for you to give them your money, they will store you card number for you to enable \&#039;1 click ordering\&#039;.  Sound great, right? Wrong. Very, very wrong.\n\nWhat you are doing may make your life easier but you are actually creating a chargeable clone of your card and entrusting it to someone else to keep safe for you.  When you hear about TKMax or similar getting hacked, it ought to make you query if you really want to leave such a clone lying around out of your control. That it doesn\&#039;t is a symptom of the fact that people have no idea of the power of information, how it can be used or how it can be abused.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While the government is clearly to blame in its attempts to create a system of Total Information Awareness, they are only getting away with it because people have no idea, or at best a very poor idea, of what data is or how it can be used.</p>
<p>I mean look at really basic things like Amazon or Tesco or any number of other online retailers. In order to speed up the shopping process and make it easier for you to give them your money, they will store you card number for you to enable &#8216;1 click ordering&#8217;.  Sound great, right? Wrong. Very, very wrong.</p>
<p>What you are doing may make your life easier but you are actually creating a chargeable clone of your card and entrusting it to someone else to keep safe for you.  When you hear about TKMax or similar getting hacked, it ought to make you query if you really want to leave such a clone lying around out of your control. That it doesn&#8217;t is a symptom of the fact that people have no idea of the power of information, how it can be used or how it can be abused.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('4284','Shaun Pilkington'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a>   &#8211;  <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('4284','Shaun Pilkington','While the government is clearly to blame in its attempts to create a system of Total Information Awareness, they are only getting away with it because people have no idea, or at best a very poor idea, of what data is or how it can be used.\n\nI mean look at really basic things like Amazon or Tesco or any number of other online retailers. In order to speed up the shopping process and make it easier for you to give them your money, they will store you card number for you to enable \'1 click ordering\'.  Sound great, right? Wrong. Very, very wrong.\n\nWhat you are doing may make your life easier but you are actually creating a chargeable clone of your card and entrusting it to someone else to keep safe for you.  When you hear about TKMax or similar getting hacked, it ought to make you query if you really want to leave such a clone lying around out of your control. That it doesn\'t is a symptom of the fact that people have no idea of the power of information, how it can be used or how it can be abused.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/11/03/more-confidential-data-lost-but-no-sign-of-id-cards-being-scrapped/#comment-4283</link>
		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 17:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way that the media and public have become desensitised to these stories makes me worry that the government will not face enough opposition to stop their plans as people just expect them to screw up.  On that basis, you&#039;re probably right.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4283&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4283&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;,&#039;The way that the media and public have become desensitised to these stories makes me worry that the government will not face enough opposition to stop their plans as people just expect them to screw up.  On that basis, you\&#039;re probably right.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way that the media and public have become desensitised to these stories makes me worry that the government will not face enough opposition to stop their plans as people just expect them to screw up.  On that basis, you&#8217;re probably right.
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		<title>By: Shaun Pilkington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shaun Pilkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 16:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the plan is to hold ALL our data in one place so when they lose it, as they inevitably will, it will be the last such story as what else will be left for them to lose?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4282&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4282&#039;,&#039;Shaun Pilkington&#039;,&#039;I think the plan is to hold ALL our data in one place so when they lose it, as they inevitably will, it will be the last such story as what else will be left for them to lose?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the plan is to hold ALL our data in one place so when they lose it, as they inevitably will, it will be the last such story as what else will be left for them to lose?
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 15:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Purnell&#039;s chances of becoming Labour leader have taken a massive hit, even though this story hasn&#039;t taken up too many front pages.  ID cards will become a massive issue at the next election and the cynicism among the public is certainly in the Conservatives&#039; favour.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4281&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4281&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;,&#039;Purnell\&#039;s chances of becoming Labour leader have taken a massive hit, even though this story hasn\&#039;t taken up too many front pages.  ID cards will become a massive issue at the next election and the cynicism among the public is certainly in the Conservatives\&#039; favour.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Purnell&#8217;s chances of becoming Labour leader have taken a massive hit, even though this story hasn&#8217;t taken up too many front pages.  ID cards will become a massive issue at the next election and the cynicism among the public is certainly in the Conservatives&#8217; favour.
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		<title>By: Bill Quango MP</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/11/03/more-confidential-data-lost-but-no-sign-of-id-cards-being-scrapped/#comment-4280</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill Quango MP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Nov 2008 11:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cameron take note of this easy target.
Expensive, unwanted, unfit for purpose..Make Mr  Bean commit to it. He&#039;s spinning like a top on his U-Turns at the moment., don&#039;t let him crawl away from this fiasco without giving him a pasting first.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;4280&#039;,&#039;Bill Quango MP&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;4280&#039;,&#039;Bill Quango MP&#039;,&#039;Cameron take note of this easy target.\nExpensive, unwanted, unfit for purpose..Make Mr  Bean commit to it. He\&#039;s spinning like a top on his U-Turns at the moment., don\&#039;t let him crawl away from this fiasco without giving him a pasting first.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cameron take note of this easy target.<br />
Expensive, unwanted, unfit for purpose..Make Mr  Bean commit to it. He&#8217;s spinning like a top on his U-Turns at the moment., don&#8217;t let him crawl away from this fiasco without giving him a pasting first.
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