Comments on: Harriet Harman makes it so easy to despise her http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/09/11/harriet-harman-makes-it-so-easy-to-despise-her/ Daily views on British politics and the Conservative Party from a centre-right thinker who writes letters on his blog to politicians, journalists and many others. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 20:46:41 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Blogpower roundup - interesting first impressions « Heather Yaxley - Greenbanana views of public relations and more http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/09/11/harriet-harman-makes-it-so-easy-to-despise-her/#comment-3614 Blogpower roundup - interesting first impressions « Heather Yaxley - Greenbanana views of public relations and more Sun, 14 Sep 2008 12:39:00 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=1082#comment-3614 [...] trust a hippy is annoyed by lovey actresses who stereotype working class women on screen.  Letter from a Tory berates Harriet Harman for a speech making stereotypical statements about background whilst [...]<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3614','Blogpower roundup - interesting first impressions « Heather Yaxley - Greenbanana views of public relations and more'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3614','Blogpower roundup - interesting first impressions « Heather Yaxley - Greenbanana views of public relations and more','[...] trust a hippy is annoyed by lovey actresses who stereotype working class women on screen.  Letter from a Tory berates Harriet Harman for a speech making stereotypical statements about background whilst [...]'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> [...] trust a hippy is annoyed by lovey actresses who stereotype working class women on screen.  Letter from a Tory berates Harriet Harman for a speech making stereotypical statements about background whilst [...]
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]]> By: Man in a Shed http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/09/11/harriet-harman-makes-it-so-easy-to-despise-her/#comment-3613 Man in a Shed Thu, 11 Sep 2008 17:25:15 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=1082#comment-3613 However she's stalking about equality in relation to social mobility - that implies to me that the same tools are going to be used on both 'problems'. ( Though I have to say that a lot of guff is talked about social mobility. ) Here a little bit more of the picture: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/education/2798968/Universities-have-a-duty-to-promote-social-justice-says-John-Denham.html , I think if this government were in power for another term we would start to move in the direction of the old communist regimes in Eastern Europe where you political localities determine what job and promotion you get.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3613','Man in a Shed'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3613','Man in a Shed','However she\'s stalking about equality in relation to social mobility - that implies to me that the same tools are going to be used on both \'problems\'. ( Though I have to say that a lot of guff is talked about social mobility. )\n\nHere a little bit more of the picture: http:\/\/www.telegraph.co.uk\/news\/newstopics\/politics\/education\/2798968\/Universities-have-a-duty-to-promote-social-justice-says-John-Denham.html , I think if this government were in power for another term we would start to move in the direction of the old communist regimes in Eastern Europe where you political localities determine what job and promotion you get.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> However she’s stalking about equality in relation to social mobility – that implies to me that the same tools are going to be used on both ‘problems’. ( Though I have to say that a lot of guff is talked about social mobility. )

Here a little bit more of the picture: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/education/2798968/Universities-have-a-duty-to-promote-social-justice-says-John-Denham.html , I think if this government were in power for another term we would start to move in the direction of the old communist regimes in Eastern Europe where you political localities determine what job and promotion you get.

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]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/09/11/harriet-harman-makes-it-so-easy-to-despise-her/#comment-3612 Letters From A Tory Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:54:53 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=1082#comment-3612 I know what you mean. Doesn't anyone else think it's rather strange that Harriet Harman has set up the 'Women and Equality Unit': http://www.equalities.gov.uk/about/ministers.htm Notice that it's not the 'Equality Unit', it's the 'Women and Equality Unit'. That tells me all I need to know about this government's contempt for a meritocracy and how they are desperate to reopen old wounds (even those which are healing nicely), be it gender or class wars, just to get a few more votes.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3612','Letters From A Tory'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3612','Letters From A Tory','I know what you mean. Doesn\'t anyone else think it\'s rather strange that Harriet Harman has set up the \'Women and Equality Unit\':\n\nhttp:\/\/www.equalities.gov.uk\/about\/ministers.htm\n\nNotice that it\'s not the \'Equality Unit\', it\'s the \'Women and Equality Unit\'.\n\nThat tells me all I need to know about this government\'s contempt for a meritocracy and how they are desperate to reopen old wounds (even those which are healing nicely), be it gender or class wars, just to get a few more votes.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> I know what you mean. Doesn’t anyone else think it’s rather strange that Harriet Harman has set up the ‘Women and Equality Unit’:

http://www.equalities.gov.uk/about/ministers.htm

Notice that it’s not the ‘Equality Unit’, it’s the ‘Women and Equality Unit’.

That tells me all I need to know about this government’s contempt for a meritocracy and how they are desperate to reopen old wounds (even those which are healing nicely), be it gender or class wars, just to get a few more votes.

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]]> By: Man in a Shed http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/09/11/harriet-harman-makes-it-so-easy-to-despise-her/#comment-3611 Man in a Shed Thu, 11 Sep 2008 15:38:01 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=1082#comment-3611 I wonder if there is something even more sinister at work here. The left have created this new equality commission and are busy adding this to its remit ( like perhaps social mobility ). Now that positive discrimination is going to become law it won't take much for this commission to start telling who get education, health care, jobs etc based on its own left wing criteria. Its beginning to look like an instrument for oppression.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3611','Man in a Shed'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3611','Man in a Shed','I wonder if there is something even more sinister at work here. The left have created this new equality commission and are busy adding this to its remit ( like perhaps social mobility ).\n\nNow that positive discrimination is going to become law it won\'t take much for this commission to start telling who get education, health care, jobs etc based on its own left wing criteria.\n\nIts beginning to look like an instrument for oppression.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> I wonder if there is something even more sinister at work here. The left have created this new equality commission and are busy adding this to its remit ( like perhaps social mobility ).

Now that positive discrimination is going to become law it won’t take much for this commission to start telling who get education, health care, jobs etc based on its own left wing criteria.

Its beginning to look like an instrument for oppression.

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]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/09/11/harriet-harman-makes-it-so-easy-to-despise-her/#comment-3610 Letters From A Tory Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:53:25 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=1082#comment-3610 Interesting that you should mention the poverty issue. Labour's claims may well be true in terms of statistics, but they have done this through throwing tax credits at those just below 60% of median income (the cut-off for being 'in poverty'), while the number of people in 'deep poverty' (less than 40% of the median income) has risen every year under Labour. It's just a statistical trick and explains why social mobility has not altered despite their claims of success. Abolishing faith schools has nothing to do with making people 'equal' - surely you know how much I hate the suggestion that anyone on the planet is equal! It's about breaking down barriers between groups within the same community, because these barriers necessarily result in ignorance and intolerance. Improving the standards of schools by freeing them from LEA control, supported by a secular philosophy that respects and supports everyone, is the best way to improve social mobility.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3610','Letters From A Tory'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3610','Letters From A Tory','Interesting that you should mention the poverty issue. Labour\'s claims may well be true in terms of statistics, but they have done this through throwing tax credits at those just below 60% of median income (the cut-off for being \'in poverty\'), while the number of people in \'deep poverty\' (less than 40% of the median income) has risen every year under Labour. It\'s just a statistical trick and explains why social mobility has not altered despite their claims of success.\n\nAbolishing faith schools has nothing to do with making people \'equal\' - surely you know how much I hate the suggestion that anyone on the planet is equal! It\'s about breaking down barriers between groups within the same community, because these barriers necessarily result in ignorance and intolerance. Improving the standards of schools by freeing them from LEA control, supported by a secular philosophy that respects and supports everyone, is the best way to improve social mobility.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Interesting that you should mention the poverty issue. Labour’s claims may well be true in terms of statistics, but they have done this through throwing tax credits at those just below 60% of median income (the cut-off for being ‘in poverty’), while the number of people in ‘deep poverty’ (less than 40% of the median income) has risen every year under Labour. It’s just a statistical trick and explains why social mobility has not altered despite their claims of success.

Abolishing faith schools has nothing to do with making people ‘equal’ – surely you know how much I hate the suggestion that anyone on the planet is equal! It’s about breaking down barriers between groups within the same community, because these barriers necessarily result in ignorance and intolerance. Improving the standards of schools by freeing them from LEA control, supported by a secular philosophy that respects and supports everyone, is the best way to improve social mobility.

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]]> By: Bill Quango MP http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/09/11/harriet-harman-makes-it-so-easy-to-despise-her/#comment-3609 Bill Quango MP Thu, 11 Sep 2008 12:30:17 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=1082#comment-3609 The last paragraph is very telling. How does the government claim to lift 1 million children from poverty yet then claim that this 'social mobility' hasn't helped them and more must be done. I know you aren't keen on faith schools but the results speak for themselves. It may be a very imperfect system but the idea of the likes of the NUT to abolish them to allow everyone to be equal is madness. Labour's equality means equally bad for all. TB did try to address this, but someone wasn't keen to fund it.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('3609','Bill Quango MP'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('3609','Bill Quango MP','The last paragraph is very telling.\nHow does the government claim to lift 1 million children from poverty yet then claim that this \'social mobility\' hasn\'t helped them and more must be done.\n\nI know you aren\'t keen on faith schools but the results speak for themselves. It may be a very imperfect system but the idea of the likes of the NUT to abolish them to allow everyone to be equal is madness.\nLabour\'s equality means equally bad for all.\n\nTB did try to address this, but someone wasn\'t keen to fund it.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> The last paragraph is very telling.
How does the government claim to lift 1 million children from poverty yet then claim that this ’social mobility’ hasn’t helped them and more must be done.

I know you aren’t keen on faith schools but the results speak for themselves. It may be a very imperfect system but the idea of the likes of the NUT to abolish them to allow everyone to be equal is madness.
Labour’s equality means equally bad for all.

TB did try to address this, but someone wasn’t keen to fund it.

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