Comments on: Today’s elections are still anyone’s guess http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/ Daily views on British politics and the Conservative Party from a centre-right thinker who writes letters on his blog to politicians, journalists and many others. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 23:48:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: asquith http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2110 asquith Thu, 01 May 2008 15:09:23 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2110 Yes, we really need a civil liberties coalition in this country. It isn't just a "liberal" cause, it's conservative as well (small l and small c).<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2110','asquith'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2110','asquith','Yes, we really need a civil liberties coalition in this country. It isn\'t just a \"liberal\" cause, it\'s conservative as well (small l and small c).'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Yes, we really need a civil liberties coalition in this country. It isn’t just a “liberal” cause, it’s conservative as well (small l and small c).
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]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2109 Letters From A Tory Thu, 01 May 2008 14:38:12 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2109 Point taken, but I don't hear Cameron and Davis talking about civil liberties very much. I would have thought repealling some government policies in this area would win over a lot of voters.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2109','Letters From A Tory'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2109','Letters From A Tory','Point taken, but I don\'t hear Cameron and Davis talking about civil liberties very much. I would have thought repealling some government policies in this area would win over a lot of voters.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Point taken, but I don’t hear Cameron and Davis talking about civil liberties very much. I would have thought repealling some government policies in this area would win over a lot of voters.
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]]> By: asquith http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2108 asquith Thu, 01 May 2008 11:44:21 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2108 I don't know if Labour can be called socialist, but they are very authoritarian. They've got that classic we-know-best attitude. Look at their endless restrictions on civil liberties. A genuinely liberal or conservative government would never even have entertained those ideas, it just wouldn't come into their heads at all. I do appreciate Cameron and Davis for being civil libertarians. Howard certainly wasn't one.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2108','asquith'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2108','asquith','I don\'t know if Labour can be called socialist, but they are very authoritarian. They\'ve got that classic we-know-best attitude. Look at their endless restrictions on civil liberties. A genuinely liberal or conservative government would never even have entertained those ideas, it just wouldn\'t come into their heads at all.\n\nI do appreciate Cameron and Davis for being civil libertarians. Howard certainly wasn\'t one.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> I don’t know if Labour can be called socialist, but they are very authoritarian. They’ve got that classic we-know-best attitude. Look at their endless restrictions on civil liberties. A genuinely liberal or conservative government would never even have entertained those ideas, it just wouldn’t come into their heads at all.

I do appreciate Cameron and Davis for being civil libertarians. Howard certainly wasn’t one.

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]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2107 Letters From A Tory Thu, 01 May 2008 09:21:04 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2107 I think aligning Labour and socialism is littered with problems, but the party is still full of socialists (at least in the backbenches). And I'm not pandering to the soft-left nor am I "aligning" UKIP with the BNP. They would both be dealt with very separately but could still be defeated. UKIP prey on concerns about our relationship with the EU while the BNP prey on concerns about immigration. A tougher stance on both issues from the Conservatives would leave UKIP and the BNP with nowhere to run.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2107','Letters From A Tory'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2107','Letters From A Tory','I think aligning Labour and socialism is littered with problems, but the party is still full of socialists (at least in the backbenches).\n\nAnd I\'m not pandering to the soft-left nor am I \"aligning\" UKIP with the BNP. They would both be dealt with very separately but could still be defeated. UKIP prey on concerns about our relationship with the EU while the BNP prey on concerns about immigration. A tougher stance on both issues from the Conservatives would leave UKIP and the BNP with nowhere to run.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> I think aligning Labour and socialism is littered with problems, but the party is still full of socialists (at least in the backbenches).

And I’m not pandering to the soft-left nor am I “aligning” UKIP with the BNP. They would both be dealt with very separately but could still be defeated. UKIP prey on concerns about our relationship with the EU while the BNP prey on concerns about immigration. A tougher stance on both issues from the Conservatives would leave UKIP and the BNP with nowhere to run.

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]]> By: Blue Eyes http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2106 Blue Eyes Thu, 01 May 2008 09:13:29 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2106 Labour's manifesto may not be Socialist, but every action they take in office is hard line authoritarian socialist.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2106','Blue Eyes'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2106','Blue Eyes','Labour\'s manifesto may not be Socialist, but every action they take in office is hard line authoritarian socialist.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Labour’s manifesto may not be Socialist, but every action they take in office is hard line authoritarian socialist.
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]]> By: Madeley http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2105 Madeley Thu, 01 May 2008 08:39:39 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2105 Blue Eyes, please don't pander to the hard-right by aligning Labour with Socialism.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2105','Madeley'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2105','Madeley','Blue Eyes, please don\'t pander to the hard-right by aligning Labour with Socialism.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Blue Eyes, please don’t pander to the hard-right by aligning Labour with Socialism.
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]]> By: Blue Eyes http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2104 Blue Eyes Thu, 01 May 2008 08:38:14 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2104 Asquith is right to vote+spoil if there are no suitable candidates. The BNP are not a conservative party, they are a party of nationalist socialism - total anathema to Tories and worryingly close to Labour. UKIP are a whole other ballgame. Please don't pander to the soft-left by aligning the two.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2104','Blue Eyes'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2104','Blue Eyes','Asquith is right to vote+spoil if there are no suitable candidates.\n\nThe BNP are not a conservative party, they are a party of nationalist socialism - total anathema to Tories and worryingly close to Labour. UKIP are a whole other ballgame. Please don\'t pander to the soft-left by aligning the two.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Asquith is right to vote+spoil if there are no suitable candidates.

The BNP are not a conservative party, they are a party of nationalist socialism – total anathema to Tories and worryingly close to Labour. UKIP are a whole other ballgame. Please don’t pander to the soft-left by aligning the two.

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]]> By: Madeley http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2103 Madeley Thu, 01 May 2008 08:36:21 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2103 Actually, disregard the previous comment. Sorry, you're absolutely right, it's a discussion for another day and a different comment thread.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2103','Madeley'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2103','Madeley','Actually, disregard the previous comment. Sorry, you\'re absolutely right, it\'s a discussion for another day and a different comment thread.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Actually, disregard the previous comment. Sorry, you’re absolutely right, it’s a discussion for another day and a different comment thread.
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]]> By: Letters From A Tory http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2102 Letters From A Tory Thu, 01 May 2008 08:35:11 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2102 Fair enough, it's your right to spoil your ballot paper in any election!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2102','Letters From A Tory'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2102','Letters From A Tory','Fair enough, it\'s your right to spoil your ballot paper in any election!'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> Fair enough, it’s your right to spoil your ballot paper in any election!
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]]> By: Madeley http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/05/01/todays-elections-are-still-anyones-guess/#comment-2101 Madeley Thu, 01 May 2008 08:34:49 +0000 http://lettersfromatory.wordpress.com/?p=587#comment-2101 "The Conservatives could wipe out UKIP and the BNP if they dared to stand up for conservative values." I dread to think what "values" another political party would have to take on to appeal to BNP voters.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('2101','Madeley'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('2101','Madeley','\"The Conservatives could wipe out UKIP and the BNP if they dared to stand up for conservative values.\"\n\nI dread to think what \"values\" another political party would have to take on to appeal to BNP voters.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div> “The Conservatives could wipe out UKIP and the BNP if they dared to stand up for conservative values.”

I dread to think what “values” another political party would have to take on to appeal to BNP voters.

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