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		<title>By: woopsie32</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/04/10/disagreeing-with-lesbian-parents-is-not-discrimination/#comment-1947</link>
		<dc:creator>woopsie32</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 May 2008 21:08:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*comment deleted for breaching rules of this blog*&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1947&#039;,&#039;woopsie32&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1947&#039;,&#039;woopsie32&#039;,&#039;*comment deleted for breaching rules of this blog*&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
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		<title>By: Jersey</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jersey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 01:59:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about the children of parents who choose to remain single? Do not these children as well deserve the need to have both paternal and maternal forces in the home as well?

Now, I do not mean singles who are because of unfortunate choices, they are because of a divorce caused by the other party, or they are widowed...I mean these wealthier, yet snobbier single women (usually single women) who refuse to have a husband or who hire nannies to raise their children instead of having a husband and sharing the raising of the child(ren).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1946&#039;,&#039;Jersey&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1946&#039;,&#039;Jersey&#039;,&#039;What about the children of parents who choose to remain single? Do not these children as well deserve the need to have both paternal and maternal forces in the home as well?\n\nNow, I do not mean singles who are because of unfortunate choices, they are because of a divorce caused by the other party, or they are widowed...I mean these wealthier, yet snobbier single women (usually single women) who refuse to have a husband or who hire nannies to raise their children instead of having a husband and sharing the raising of the child(ren).&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about the children of parents who choose to remain single? Do not these children as well deserve the need to have both paternal and maternal forces in the home as well?</p>
<p>Now, I do not mean singles who are because of unfortunate choices, they are because of a divorce caused by the other party, or they are widowed&#8230;I mean these wealthier, yet snobbier single women (usually single women) who refuse to have a husband or who hire nannies to raise their children instead of having a husband and sharing the raising of the child(ren).
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		<title>By: Will Rhodes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Will Rhodes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 23:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What about if both parents are bi-sexual? A male bi-sexual and a female bi-sexual.  Or, as we have seen in the US, polymorphic?

Looking at parenting in such a black and white view can distract from the real problem - which is normally the case.

If a child needs role models, which all children do, what does it matter the sexuality of that role model?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1945&#039;,&#039;Will Rhodes&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1945&#039;,&#039;Will Rhodes&#039;,&#039;What about if both parents are bi-sexual? A male bi-sexual and a female bi-sexual.  Or, as we have seen in the US, polymorphic?\n\nLooking at parenting in such a black and white view can distract from the real problem - which is normally the case.\n\nIf a child needs role models, which all children do, what does it matter the sexuality of that role model?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What about if both parents are bi-sexual? A male bi-sexual and a female bi-sexual.  Or, as we have seen in the US, polymorphic?</p>
<p>Looking at parenting in such a black and white view can distract from the real problem &#8211; which is normally the case.</p>
<p>If a child needs role models, which all children do, what does it matter the sexuality of that role model?
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 Apr 2008 11:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m obviously glad that you feel your upbringing has set you off on the right foot.

I agree that gay adoption is a very different issue from something like lesbian IVF couples, and same-sex marriages are another issue entirely.  In my defence, it would take me ages to explain my views in detail on everything to do with gay and lesbian couples, marriages and families!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1944&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1944&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;m obviously glad that you feel your upbringing has set you off on the right foot.\n\nI agree that gay adoption is a very different issue from something like lesbian IVF couples, and same-sex marriages are another issue entirely.  In my defence, it would take me ages to explain my views in detail on everything to do with gay and lesbian couples, marriages and families!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m obviously glad that you feel your upbringing has set you off on the right foot.</p>
<p>I agree that gay adoption is a very different issue from something like lesbian IVF couples, and same-sex marriages are another issue entirely.  In my defence, it would take me ages to explain my views in detail on everything to do with gay and lesbian couples, marriages and families!
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 19:05:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To put in my entirely irrelevant teenager-old view, I was raised without a father entirely, which puts me slightly closer to a female same-sex upbringing then most. I also have a friend who grew up with two lesbian parents, but is a rather difficult case because he has mildADHD and it&#039;s hard to tell what traits of his personality draw from what.

In general, however, I have no problem with the concept of same-sex parents, though I would take a step back when it means turning to options past adoption.

Building upon a point Candid made about growing up without knowing the gender differences, I actually agree in some respects, but don&#039;t think that it&#039;s a particularly good argument against same sex marriages. I have always felt like I was struggling to connect myself with normal people because, in a shamelessly arrogant manner I have always felt much more intelligent then those around me. Having been raised without a steady father figure on top of this, I have never really felt that I associate with conventional male behavior at all. It is true, too, that as far as British young males go, I am a fairly effeminate one, but I do not consider myself particularly &#039;girly&#039; in any respect.

The aspects of my personality that most would consider effeminate are ones I personally just consider signs of a balanced personality. I am quite sensitive, mature when I need to be, quite compulsive about cleanliness. Awkward gender stereotypes that really shouldn&#039;t be, because they aren&#039;t something we should be attaching a negative connotation with.

I do believe that if I had a father figure in my earlier life I would have been an entirely different person. I was bullied enthusiastically at school all the way through to university, but I would not go back and decide that I would rather have my father there so that I was able to accommodate myself into a person who wouldn&#039;t be, because I feel like my development (including the bullying) has led to who I am. I look at other people who came up from conventional family units, who led what you could call &#039;normal&#039; childhoods and I just think &#039;boring&#039;.

I am much more capable then most of my friends and I do not feel like my life has been ruined from not growing up in what you believe to be the best environment, in fact I&#039;m pretty positive I&#039;ve gained more as a person from the one I got.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1943&#039;,&#039;James&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1943&#039;,&#039;James&#039;,&#039;To put in my entirely irrelevant teenager-old view, I was raised without a father entirely, which puts me slightly closer to a female same-sex upbringing then most. I also have a friend who grew up with two lesbian parents, but is a rather difficult case because he has mildADHD and it\&#039;s hard to tell what traits of his personality draw from what.\n\nIn general, however, I have no problem with the concept of same-sex parents, though I would take a step back when it means turning to options past adoption.\n\nBuilding upon a point Candid made about growing up without knowing the gender differences, I actually agree in some respects, but don\&#039;t think that it\&#039;s a particularly good argument against same sex marriages. I have always felt like I was struggling to connect myself with normal people because, in a shamelessly arrogant manner I have always felt much more intelligent then those around me. Having been raised without a steady father figure on top of this, I have never really felt that I associate with conventional male behavior at all. It is true, too, that as far as British young males go, I am a fairly effeminate one, but I do not consider myself particularly \&#039;girly\&#039; in any respect.\n\nThe aspects of my personality that most would consider effeminate are ones I personally just consider signs of a balanced personality. I am quite sensitive, mature when I need to be, quite compulsive about cleanliness. Awkward gender stereotypes that really shouldn\&#039;t be, because they aren\&#039;t something we should be attaching a negative connotation with.\n\nI do believe that if I had a father figure in my earlier life I would have been an entirely different person. I was bullied enthusiastically at school all the way through to university, but I would not go back and decide that I would rather have my father there so that I was able to accommodate myself into a person who wouldn\&#039;t be, because I feel like my development (including the bullying) has led to who I am. I look at other people who came up from conventional family units, who led what you could call \&#039;normal\&#039; childhoods and I just think \&#039;boring\&#039;.\n\nI am much more capable then most of my friends and I do not feel like my life has been ruined from not growing up in what you believe to be the best environment, in fact I\&#039;m pretty positive I\&#039;ve gained more as a person from the one I got.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To put in my entirely irrelevant teenager-old view, I was raised without a father entirely, which puts me slightly closer to a female same-sex upbringing then most. I also have a friend who grew up with two lesbian parents, but is a rather difficult case because he has mildADHD and it&#8217;s hard to tell what traits of his personality draw from what.</p>
<p>In general, however, I have no problem with the concept of same-sex parents, though I would take a step back when it means turning to options past adoption.</p>
<p>Building upon a point Candid made about growing up without knowing the gender differences, I actually agree in some respects, but don&#8217;t think that it&#8217;s a particularly good argument against same sex marriages. I have always felt like I was struggling to connect myself with normal people because, in a shamelessly arrogant manner I have always felt much more intelligent then those around me. Having been raised without a steady father figure on top of this, I have never really felt that I associate with conventional male behavior at all. It is true, too, that as far as British young males go, I am a fairly effeminate one, but I do not consider myself particularly &#8216;girly&#8217; in any respect.</p>
<p>The aspects of my personality that most would consider effeminate are ones I personally just consider signs of a balanced personality. I am quite sensitive, mature when I need to be, quite compulsive about cleanliness. Awkward gender stereotypes that really shouldn&#8217;t be, because they aren&#8217;t something we should be attaching a negative connotation with.</p>
<p>I do believe that if I had a father figure in my earlier life I would have been an entirely different person. I was bullied enthusiastically at school all the way through to university, but I would not go back and decide that I would rather have my father there so that I was able to accommodate myself into a person who wouldn&#8217;t be, because I feel like my development (including the bullying) has led to who I am. I look at other people who came up from conventional family units, who led what you could call &#8216;normal&#8217; childhoods and I just think &#8216;boring&#8217;.</p>
<p>I am much more capable then most of my friends and I do not feel like my life has been ruined from not growing up in what you believe to be the best environment, in fact I&#8217;m pretty positive I&#8217;ve gained more as a person from the one I got.
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		<title>By: Candid</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 15:55:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would feel sorry for children being brought up in these same sex couples.

Being a &#039;Butch Mummy&#039;s girl&#039; rather than a &#039;Daddy&#039;s Girl&#039; is just not quite right.  I think its good for children to have a balance and be able to see the world from a males&#039; and females&#039; way of thinking - which is, let&#039;s face it, very different.

This also leads children to grow up knowing the gender differences and therefore being able to form friendship and relationship bonds.  Just think how screwed up some kids become after leaving a same-sex school and suddenly find members of the other sex.

It is not healthy for children to be brought up in a mono-sex or mono-culture background.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1942&#039;,&#039;Candid&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1942&#039;,&#039;Candid&#039;,&#039;I would feel sorry for children being brought up in these same sex couples.\n\nBeing a \&#039;Butch Mummy\&#039;s girl\&#039; rather than a \&#039;Daddy\&#039;s Girl\&#039; is just not quite right.  I think its good for children to have a balance and be able to see the world from a males\&#039; and females\&#039; way of thinking - which is, let\&#039;s face it, very different.\n\nThis also leads children to grow up knowing the gender differences and therefore being able to form friendship and relationship bonds.  Just think how screwed up some kids become after leaving a same-sex school and suddenly find members of the other sex.\n\nIt is not healthy for children to be brought up in a mono-sex or mono-culture background.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would feel sorry for children being brought up in these same sex couples.</p>
<p>Being a &#8216;Butch Mummy&#8217;s girl&#8217; rather than a &#8216;Daddy&#8217;s Girl&#8217; is just not quite right.  I think its good for children to have a balance and be able to see the world from a males&#8217; and females&#8217; way of thinking &#8211; which is, let&#8217;s face it, very different.</p>
<p>This also leads children to grow up knowing the gender differences and therefore being able to form friendship and relationship bonds.  Just think how screwed up some kids become after leaving a same-sex school and suddenly find members of the other sex.</p>
<p>It is not healthy for children to be brought up in a mono-sex or mono-culture background.
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		<title>By: storm23</title>
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		<dc:creator>storm23</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:49:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And I cannot stand people saying that supporting opposite sex parents is â€˜discriminationâ€™ &#8211; is paternity/maternity leave â€˜discriminationâ€™? Obviously not! It is just a recognition of mothers having naturally better parenting skills (the research evidence is unequivocal). I assume that you also think the mother being considerably more likely to be awarded child custody when a marriage breaks up is â€˜discriminationâ€™? By your logic, it must be.&#8221;</p>
<p>A wide range of literature shows that judges are discriminatory in awarding custody and that an assumption is made that generally children will stay with the mother unless there clear evidence that this would be bad for the child. I&#8217;m not sure about discriminatory but it is certainly something thats based on societys norms rather than evidence provided that is relevant to the case.
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
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		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 14:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Blue Eyes, I certainly agree that in some circumstances (e.g. abusive parents) same-sex parents may offer a child a better environment than the one they currently reside in - in which case, as the interests of the child are the key issue here, you&#039;d be crazy not to consider same-sex parents.  This is my point - I am not saying that same-sex parents should never ever be allowed near children, but a loving mum and dad is still on a pedestal above every other family type.

Madeley, the evidence always provides a mixed bag.  Some studies say that children with same-sex parents are more likely to be bullied and harrassed at school in addition to being more likely to be gay themselves, whereas other studies do not reach the same conclusion.  More importantly, the majority of studies in this area are very poor.   For example, they frequently rely on studying same-sex parents who volunteered to take part (which is a joke in research terms), they are often very small-scale and they tend to just look at young children.  The age of the children is critical because identity formation and social development rapidly come to the fore in adolescence but the research often ignores this.  To cut a long story short, I don&#039;t pretend to be an expert but I&#039;ve seen enough to make me very concerned about the effect of same-sex parents on children&#039;s development.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1940&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1940&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;,&#039;Blue Eyes, I certainly agree that in some circumstances (e.g. abusive parents) same-sex parents may offer a child a better environment than the one they currently reside in - in which case, as the interests of the child are the key issue here, you\&#039;d be crazy not to consider same-sex parents.  This is my point - I am not saying that same-sex parents should never ever be allowed near children, but a loving mum and dad is still on a pedestal above every other family type.\n\nMadeley, the evidence always provides a mixed bag.  Some studies say that children with same-sex parents are more likely to be bullied and harrassed at school in addition to being more likely to be gay themselves, whereas other studies do not reach the same conclusion.  More importantly, the majority of studies in this area are very poor.   For example, they frequently rely on studying same-sex parents who volunteered to take part (which is a joke in research terms), they are often very small-scale and they tend to just look at young children.  The age of the children is critical because identity formation and social development rapidly come to the fore in adolescence but the research often ignores this.  To cut a long story short, I don\&#039;t pretend to be an expert but I\&#039;ve seen enough to make me very concerned about the effect of same-sex parents on children\&#039;s development.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Blue Eyes, I certainly agree that in some circumstances (e.g. abusive parents) same-sex parents may offer a child a better environment than the one they currently reside in &#8211; in which case, as the interests of the child are the key issue here, you&#8217;d be crazy not to consider same-sex parents.  This is my point &#8211; I am not saying that same-sex parents should never ever be allowed near children, but a loving mum and dad is still on a pedestal above every other family type.</p>
<p>Madeley, the evidence always provides a mixed bag.  Some studies say that children with same-sex parents are more likely to be bullied and harrassed at school in addition to being more likely to be gay themselves, whereas other studies do not reach the same conclusion.  More importantly, the majority of studies in this area are very poor.   For example, they frequently rely on studying same-sex parents who volunteered to take part (which is a joke in research terms), they are often very small-scale and they tend to just look at young children.  The age of the children is critical because identity formation and social development rapidly come to the fore in adolescence but the research often ignores this.  To cut a long story short, I don&#8217;t pretend to be an expert but I&#8217;ve seen enough to make me very concerned about the effect of same-sex parents on children&#8217;s development.
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		<title>By: Madeley</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/04/10/disagreeing-with-lesbian-parents-is-not-discrimination/#comment-1939</link>
		<dc:creator>Madeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just one question regarding this: what effect &lt;em&gt;does&lt;/em&gt; being brought up by a same-sex couple have on a child? I understand it&#039;s &quot;noticeable different&quot;, but in what way is it a negative difference? In what way do the studies say the child has been effected? Do they do worse educationally, are they more likely to commit crimes?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1939&#039;,&#039;Madeley&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1939&#039;,&#039;Madeley&#039;,&#039;Just one question regarding this: what effect &lt;em&gt;does&lt;\/em&gt; being brought up by a same-sex couple have on a child? I understand it\&#039;s \&quot;noticeable different\&quot;, but in what way is it a negative difference? In what way do the studies say the child has been effected? Do they do worse educationally, are they more likely to commit crimes?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just one question regarding this: what effect <em>does</em> being brought up by a same-sex couple have on a child? I understand it&#8217;s &#8220;noticeable different&#8221;, but in what way is it a negative difference? In what way do the studies say the child has been effected? Do they do worse educationally, are they more likely to commit crimes?
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		<title>By: Blue Eyes</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2008/04/10/disagreeing-with-lesbian-parents-is-not-discrimination/#comment-1938</link>
		<dc:creator>Blue Eyes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 13:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You said that a loving mum and dad were the best, fair enough.  Would you say that a loving mum and mum were better or worse than a loving mum and a series of not-so-loving stepfathers? It&#039;s quite hard to generalise.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1938&#039;,&#039;Blue Eyes&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1938&#039;,&#039;Blue Eyes&#039;,&#039;You said that a loving mum and dad were the best, fair enough.  Would you say that a loving mum and mum were better or worse than a loving mum and a series of not-so-loving stepfathers? It\&#039;s quite hard to generalise.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You said that a loving mum and dad were the best, fair enough.  Would you say that a loving mum and mum were better or worse than a loving mum and a series of not-so-loving stepfathers? It&#8217;s quite hard to generalise.
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