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	<title>Comments on: Lesbian IVF seekers do undermine family life, actually</title>
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		<title>By: stella</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2007/12/02/lesbian-ivf-seekers-do-undermine-family-life-actually/#comment-1354</link>
		<dc:creator>stella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:51:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You describe the argument that lesbian couples should be allowed IVF as &#039;&#039;horrifying&#039;&#039;. What is horrifying is your medieval attitude towards parenting.  You imply that any children without a heterosexual mother and father at the head of the family are at a disadvantage. Surely the most important &#039;&#039;needs&#039;&#039; of children are a stable home and a guarantee of unconditional love. It is &quot;sickeningly patronising&quot; and antiquated of you to think that this stability can only be provided by a heterosexual couple. Surely a child of a loving gay couple is better off than a child of a jaded straight couple?
You contradict yourself, outraged by the favour the English judicial system shows mothers but openly declaring that &#039;&#039;that women have naturally better parenting skills&#039;&#039;, do you not see the correlation?
 &quot;I would crush those laws if I became Prime Minister&quot;;considering the weight of opinion against you, this seems highly unlikely. If this is the &#039;conservative view&#039;, then I&#039;m afraid in this one instance that you are right: &#039;&#039;Conservative Future&#039;&#039; is definitely an oxymoron.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1354&#039;,&#039;stella&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1354&#039;,&#039;stella&#039;,&#039;You describe the argument that lesbian couples should be allowed IVF as \&#039;\&#039;horrifying\&#039;\&#039;. What is horrifying is your medieval attitude towards parenting.  You imply that any children without a heterosexual mother and father at the head of the family are at a disadvantage. Surely the most important \&#039;\&#039;needs\&#039;\&#039; of children are a stable home and a guarantee of unconditional love. It is \&quot;sickeningly patronising\&quot; and antiquated of you to think that this stability can only be provided by a heterosexual couple. Surely a child of a loving gay couple is better off than a child of a jaded straight couple?\nYou contradict yourself, outraged by the favour the English judicial system shows mothers but openly declaring that \&#039;\&#039;that women have naturally better parenting skills\&#039;\&#039;, do you not see the correlation?\n \&quot;I would crush those laws if I became Prime Minister\&quot;;considering the weight of opinion against you, this seems highly unlikely. If this is the \&#039;conservative view\&#039;, then I\&#039;m afraid in this one instance that you are right: \&#039;\&#039;Conservative Future\&#039;\&#039; is definitely an oxymoron.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You describe the argument that lesbian couples should be allowed IVF as &#8221;horrifying&#8221;. What is horrifying is your medieval attitude towards parenting.  You imply that any children without a heterosexual mother and father at the head of the family are at a disadvantage. Surely the most important &#8221;needs&#8221; of children are a stable home and a guarantee of unconditional love. It is &#8220;sickeningly patronising&#8221; and antiquated of you to think that this stability can only be provided by a heterosexual couple. Surely a child of a loving gay couple is better off than a child of a jaded straight couple?<br />
You contradict yourself, outraged by the favour the English judicial system shows mothers but openly declaring that &#8221;that women have naturally better parenting skills&#8221;, do you not see the correlation?<br />
 &#8220;I would crush those laws if I became Prime Minister&#8221;;considering the weight of opinion against you, this seems highly unlikely. If this is the &#8216;conservative view&#8217;, then I&#8217;m afraid in this one instance that you are right: &#8221;Conservative Future&#8221; is definitely an oxymoron.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1354','stella'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a>   &#8211;  <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1354','stella','You describe the argument that lesbian couples should be allowed IVF as \'\'horrifying\'\'. What is horrifying is your medieval attitude towards parenting.  You imply that any children without a heterosexual mother and father at the head of the family are at a disadvantage. Surely the most important \'\'needs\'\' of children are a stable home and a guarantee of unconditional love. It is \&quot;sickeningly patronising\&quot; and antiquated of you to think that this stability can only be provided by a heterosexual couple. Surely a child of a loving gay couple is better off than a child of a jaded straight couple?\nYou contradict yourself, outraged by the favour the English judicial system shows mothers but openly declaring that \'\'that women have naturally better parenting skills\'\', do you not see the correlation?\n \&quot;I would crush those laws if I became Prime Minister\&quot;;considering the weight of opinion against you, this seems highly unlikely. If this is the \'conservative view\', then I\'m afraid in this one instance that you are right: \'\'Conservative Future\'\' is definitely an oxymoron.'); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: Cindy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Cindy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Jul 2008 14:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  What an archaic and prejudiced statement.  How about this one &quot;every child deserves parents that love them and meet their needs&quot;   Do my daughters REALLY need their pedophile-sex offender father in their life? I say no and so does the judicial system but I guess they&#039;re wrong and you&#039;re right.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1353&#039;,&#039;Cindy&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1353&#039;,&#039;Cindy&#039;,&#039;Wow.  What an archaic and prejudiced statement.  How about this one \&quot;every child deserves parents that love them and meet their needs\&quot;   Do my daughters REALLY need their pedophile-sex offender father in their life? I say no and so does the judicial system but I guess they\&#039;re wrong and you\&#039;re right.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  What an archaic and prejudiced statement.  How about this one &#8220;every child deserves parents that love them and meet their needs&#8221;   Do my daughters REALLY need their pedophile-sex offender father in their life? I say no and so does the judicial system but I guess they&#8217;re wrong and you&#8217;re right.
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		<title>By: Anastasia</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anastasia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jul 2008 13:41:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I could argue with you for hours over these points however ill keep it short. Id much rather my money went towards something good, decent and worthwhile rather than things such as the millenium dome and the olympics. Also, a child does not need a mother and a father, a child needs a loving family and a good socialisation - how many types of particular genitals you have in parenting and how many different types structure of brain you have in parenting doesnt matter. ( brain = referring to sex differences, eg. men have larger parietal lobes whereas women have bigger frontal lobes).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1352&#039;,&#039;Anastasia&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1352&#039;,&#039;Anastasia&#039;,&#039;I could argue with you for hours over these points however ill keep it short. Id much rather my money went towards something good, decent and worthwhile rather than things such as the millenium dome and the olympics. Also, a child does not need a mother and a father, a child needs a loving family and a good socialisation - how many types of particular genitals you have in parenting and how many different types structure of brain you have in parenting doesnt matter. ( brain = referring to sex differences, eg. men have larger parietal lobes whereas women have bigger frontal lobes).&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I could argue with you for hours over these points however ill keep it short. Id much rather my money went towards something good, decent and worthwhile rather than things such as the millenium dome and the olympics. Also, a child does not need a mother and a father, a child needs a loving family and a good socialisation &#8211; how many types of particular genitals you have in parenting and how many different types structure of brain you have in parenting doesnt matter. ( brain = referring to sex differences, eg. men have larger parietal lobes whereas women have bigger frontal lobes).
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		<title>By: Riley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Riley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:29:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;its the future&#8217;&#8230;I agree with everything you said. &#8216;its not the future&#8217;, however, your comments scare and sicken me. Who is anyone to take away the right for a woman to have IVF treatment? Lesbian or straight, it is the woman&#8217;s choice, not yours.</p>
<p>Every child needs a loving, caring and protective family, whether this be the love of a mother and father, two mothers, or two fathers is beside the point.</p>
<p>What you put forward is opinion, not fact, so before you start imposing these views on others I urge to at least have the decency to back it up with valid research evidence.</p>
<p>&#8216;Research to date has reached an unequivocal conclusion about gay parenting: the children of lesbian and gay parents grow up as successfully as the children of heterosexual parents. In fact, not a single study has found the children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged because of their parentsâ€™ sexual orientation.&#8217;</p>
<p>Furthermore, here are the key findings from research:</p>
<p>&#8216;There is no evidence to suggest that lesbians and gay men are unfit to be parents. Home environments with lesbian and gay parents are as likely to successfully support a childâ€™s development as those with heterosexual parents.</p>
<p>Good parenting is not influenced by sexual orientation. Rather, it is influenced most profoundly by a parentâ€™s ability to create a loving and nurturing home &#8212; an ability that does not depend on whether a parent is gay or straight.</p>
<p>There is no evidence to suggest that the children of lesbian and gay parents are less intelligent, suffer from more problems, are less popular, or have lower self-esteem than children of heterosexual parents.</p>
<p>The children of lesbian and gay parents grow up as happy, healthy and well-adjusted as the children of heterosexual parents.&#8217;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('1351','Riley'); return false;">Reply to this comment</a>   &#8211;  <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('1351','Riley','\'its the future\'...I agree with everything you said. \'its not the future\', however, your comments scare and sicken me. Who is anyone to take away the right for a woman to have IVF treatment? Lesbian or straight, it is the woman\'s choice, not yours.\n\nEvery child needs a loving, caring and protective family, whether this be the love of a mother and father, two mothers, or two fathers is beside the point.\n\nWhat you put forward is opinion, not fact, so before you start imposing these views on others I urge to at least have the decency to back it up with valid research evidence.\n\n\'Research to date has reached an unequivocal conclusion about gay parenting: the children of lesbian and gay parents grow up as successfully as the children of heterosexual parents. In fact, not a single study has found the children of lesbian or gay parents to be disadvantaged because of their parents&acirc;€™ sexual orientation.\'\n\nFurthermore, here are the key findings from research:\n\n\'There is no evidence to suggest that lesbians and gay men are unfit to be parents. Home environments with lesbian and gay parents are as likely to successfully support a child&acirc;€™s development as those with heterosexual parents.\n\nGood parenting is not influenced by sexual orientation. Rather, it is influenced most profoundly by a parent&acirc;€™s ability to create a loving and nurturing home -- an ability that does not depend on whether a parent is gay or straight.\n\nThere is no evidence to suggest that the children of lesbian and gay parents are less intelligent, suffer from more problems, are less popular, or have lower self-esteem than children of heterosexual parents.\n\nThe children of lesbian and gay parents grow up as happy, healthy and well-adjusted as the children of heterosexual parents.\''); return false;">Quote this comment</a></div>
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		<title>By: BrianSJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>BrianSJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 07:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There could certainly do with being a little more joined up thinking between abortion, adoption and IVF.  The latter two are dreadfully disconnected; a large number of people go through the IVF and do not succeed, then to find they are &#039;too old&#039; to adopt, based on criteria that are clearly very different to those supporting lesbian IVF.
Given the things the NHS won&#039;t fund (e.g. macular degeneration), it seems odd.  The legal pursuit of a sperm donor may stop things, however.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1350&#039;,&#039;BrianSJ&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1350&#039;,&#039;BrianSJ&#039;,&#039;There could certainly do with being a little more joined up thinking between abortion, adoption and IVF.  The latter two are dreadfully disconnected; a large number of people go through the IVF and do not succeed, then to find they are \&#039;too old\&#039; to adopt, based on criteria that are clearly very different to those supporting lesbian IVF.\nGiven the things the NHS won\&#039;t fund (e.g. macular degeneration), it seems odd.  The legal pursuit of a sperm donor may stop things, however.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There could certainly do with being a little more joined up thinking between abortion, adoption and IVF.  The latter two are dreadfully disconnected; a large number of people go through the IVF and do not succeed, then to find they are &#8216;too old&#8217; to adopt, based on criteria that are clearly very different to those supporting lesbian IVF.<br />
Given the things the NHS won&#8217;t fund (e.g. macular degeneration), it seems odd.  The legal pursuit of a sperm donor may stop things, however.
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		<title>By: its not the future</title>
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		<dc:creator>its not the future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Dec 2007 19:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quite frankly &#039;its the future&#039; your comments scare me.
How can you possibly be of the opinion that same sex couples have the right to conceive children.  Surely by accepting a lesbian lifestyle you automatically put yourself in a position removed from the natural conception of children.

I do not support the use of IVF as the planet could do with less children and if humans do not have the biological capabilities to have children then they shouldn&#039;t have them.  However, I do believe strongly in adoption and couples (both same sex and hetero) should consider this more charitable route.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1348&#039;,&#039;its not the future&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1348&#039;,&#039;its not the future&#039;,&#039;Quite frankly \&#039;its the future\&#039; your comments scare me.\nHow can you possibly be of the opinion that same sex couples have the right to conceive children.  Surely by accepting a lesbian lifestyle you automatically put yourself in a position removed from the natural conception of children.\n\nI do not support the use of IVF as the planet could do with less children and if humans do not have the biological capabilities to have children then they shouldn\&#039;t have them.  However, I do believe strongly in adoption and couples (both same sex and hetero) should consider this more charitable route.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quite frankly &#8216;its the future&#8217; your comments scare me.<br />
How can you possibly be of the opinion that same sex couples have the right to conceive children.  Surely by accepting a lesbian lifestyle you automatically put yourself in a position removed from the natural conception of children.</p>
<p>I do not support the use of IVF as the planet could do with less children and if humans do not have the biological capabilities to have children then they shouldn&#8217;t have them.  However, I do believe strongly in adoption and couples (both same sex and hetero) should consider this more charitable route.
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		<title>By: its the future</title>
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		<dc:creator>its the future</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Dec 2007 17:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i am very disturbed by reading this blog. firstly i think it is awlful to say that it is a waste of tax payers money to offer IVF treatment to lesbains. i pay my taxes and im very glad to be able to give people the chance to be parents. who are u to say its wrong for people to want to procreate. lesbians do not appear to be wanting to rule out men. they are not trying to make them extinct and many do believe that a male influence is needed in a childs life. yet who is to say that it has to be the sperm donner who provides that male influnce.
the world today is not a&#039;traditional family&#039; and it is a very very old fashioned and closed minded idea that the world will continue to be that way. i think it is disgustiing to say that only straight people should be able to have children, implying that single sex parents are not good enought to raise children. we all want to procreate and as long as there is love and stable home to bring a child up in, who is to say it is a wrong upbringing??

when single sex parents choose to have a child through IVF, it is a conscious choice and one where all things are taken into account and planned for. i believe that more single sex parents maybe more prepared to raise a child as it would never be an opps.

i think people need to get with the times and changes in the world. as u never know, one day ur daughter or son could be gay and where would u closed minds get u then!!!&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1349&#039;,&#039;its the future&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1349&#039;,&#039;its the future&#039;,&#039;i am very disturbed by reading this blog. firstly i think it is awlful to say that it is a waste of tax payers money to offer IVF treatment to lesbains. i pay my taxes and im very glad to be able to give people the chance to be parents. who are u to say its wrong for people to want to procreate. lesbians do not appear to be wanting to rule out men. they are not trying to make them extinct and many do believe that a male influence is needed in a childs life. yet who is to say that it has to be the sperm donner who provides that male influnce.\nthe world today is not a\&#039;traditional family\&#039; and it is a very very old fashioned and closed minded idea that the world will continue to be that way. i think it is disgustiing to say that only straight people should be able to have children, implying that single sex parents are not good enought to raise children. we all want to procreate and as long as there is love and stable home to bring a child up in, who is to say it is a wrong upbringing??\n\nwhen single sex parents choose to have a child through IVF, it is a conscious choice and one where all things are taken into account and planned for. i believe that more single sex parents maybe more prepared to raise a child as it would never be an opps.\n\ni think people need to get with the times and changes in the world. as u never know, one day ur daughter or son could be gay and where would u closed minds get u then!!!&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i am very disturbed by reading this blog. firstly i think it is awlful to say that it is a waste of tax payers money to offer IVF treatment to lesbains. i pay my taxes and im very glad to be able to give people the chance to be parents. who are u to say its wrong for people to want to procreate. lesbians do not appear to be wanting to rule out men. they are not trying to make them extinct and many do believe that a male influence is needed in a childs life. yet who is to say that it has to be the sperm donner who provides that male influnce.<br />
the world today is not a&#8217;traditional family&#8217; and it is a very very old fashioned and closed minded idea that the world will continue to be that way. i think it is disgustiing to say that only straight people should be able to have children, implying that single sex parents are not good enought to raise children. we all want to procreate and as long as there is love and stable home to bring a child up in, who is to say it is a wrong upbringing??</p>
<p>when single sex parents choose to have a child through IVF, it is a conscious choice and one where all things are taken into account and planned for. i believe that more single sex parents maybe more prepared to raise a child as it would never be an opps.</p>
<p>i think people need to get with the times and changes in the world. as u never know, one day ur daughter or son could be gay and where would u closed minds get u then!!!
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		<title>By: British Patriot</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2007/12/02/lesbian-ivf-seekers-do-undermine-family-life-actually/#comment-1345</link>
		<dc:creator>British Patriot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Dec 2007 04:38:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I used to Blame Feminists for the undermining of Our Society, but I was wrong.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7373201783240489827&amp;q=education%2Billuminati&amp;hl=en&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1345&#039;,&#039;British Patriot&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1345&#039;,&#039;British Patriot&#039;,&#039;I used to Blame Feminists for the undermining of Our Society, but I was wrong.\n\nhttp:\/\/video.google.com\/videoplay?docid=-7373201783240489827&amp;q=education%2Billuminati&amp;hl=en&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I used to Blame Feminists for the undermining of Our Society, but I was wrong.</p>
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		<title>By: Letters From A Tory</title>
		<link>http://www.lettersfromatory.com/2007/12/02/lesbian-ivf-seekers-do-undermine-family-life-actually/#comment-1346</link>
		<dc:creator>Letters From A Tory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 07:31:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apologies - what I was referring to was my own beliefs.  When I&#039;m discussing the NHS, education, police reform, the welfare state etc I am always keen to hear different sides of the argument on policy issues and I often change my perspective in light of what other people tell me.

However, when it comes to my views on the family, no-one will ever change my views on the importance of a mother and father for every child (see &#039;Why I write this blog&#039;).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1346&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1346&#039;,&#039;Letters From A Tory&#039;,&#039;Apologies - what I was referring to was my own beliefs.  When I\&#039;m discussing the NHS, education, police reform, the welfare state etc I am always keen to hear different sides of the argument on policy issues and I often change my perspective in light of what other people tell me.\n\nHowever, when it comes to my views on the family, no-one will ever change my views on the importance of a mother and father for every child (see \&#039;Why I write this blog\&#039;).&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apologies &#8211; what I was referring to was my own beliefs.  When I&#8217;m discussing the NHS, education, police reform, the welfare state etc I am always keen to hear different sides of the argument on policy issues and I often change my perspective in light of what other people tell me.</p>
<p>However, when it comes to my views on the family, no-one will ever change my views on the importance of a mother and father for every child (see &#8216;Why I write this blog&#8217;).
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		<title>By: ken</title>
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		<dc:creator>ken</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Dec 2007 02:30:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your last comment is powerful..

&quot;Every child needs a father and a mother.  No argument, no discussion, no debate.&quot;

May I make a slight change..

Every child needs a father and a mother.  No argument, no discussion, no debate. No democracy.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;1347&#039;,&#039;ken&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply to this comment&lt;/a&gt;   -  &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;1347&#039;,&#039;ken&#039;,&#039;Your last comment is powerful..\n\n\&quot;Every child needs a father and a mother.  No argument, no discussion, no debate.\&quot;\n\nMay I make a slight change..\n\nEvery child needs a father and a mother.  No argument, no discussion, no debate. No democracy.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote this comment&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your last comment is powerful..</p>
<p>&#8220;Every child needs a father and a mother.  No argument, no discussion, no debate.&#8221;</p>
<p>May I make a slight change..</p>
<p>Every child needs a father and a mother.  No argument, no discussion, no debate. No democracy.
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